problem with friday night lights and dvd shrink

Hmmm I wonder whats the problem I used shrink (latest version) on friday night lights and it worked. I even burned with shrink and no problems at all perfect copy. I dont know why people rip with one program and burn with another.

 

Decrypter does rip better than DVD Shrink. I wouldnt trade Shrink for anyother program on my computer, but the fact of the manner is Decrypter will rip a movie faster and better than Shrink. If you are only doing the main movie which is what I do then you probably will not have a problem just using Shrink, but try the whole movie.

 

So you feel ripping with one program in this case DVD decrypter and burning with another (shrink) is worth the hassle? Im using a 65 inch TV and I cannot tell the difference however I have noticed that shrink on 50% compression is worse than other programs. The pixelization is terriable.

 

Man just wanted to say,
looks like most of yall shouldnt be in the noobs forums...lol..
I'm amazed reading all yall stuff..
Have no idea what your talking about though..lol
but hopefully will learn a little over time.
I'm just getting started doing this burning movies,
and making dvd's and stuff., so yall will prolly see my name in here a bunch asking yall questions,One
of yall should just come over here and sit down and show me all this stuff..lol

Thanks for the intersting reading

papaw

 

megabyte2
The quality comes in with the encoding. Of course one has to have a good rip. Anything at 50% compression automatically goes to RB/CCE for me. No pixelation or skipping and a video that rivals the original. Anyone wanting quality at high compression needs to check this one out.

DVD Shrink is a decent app in its own right and it is free. However better can be had, for a lot of DVD recording I use DVDCopy3. As good or better quality than Shrink and a lot faster, if speed makes a difference.

 

Try this, it worked for me when backing up Friday Night Lights.

First I used DVD Decrypter.

Had trouble using DVD Shrink 3.2 so I downloaded and used an older version of DVD Shrink, V 3.17 and everything turned out great, perfect copy.

Good Luck

 

megabyte2,
Yes I get better results this way and I have backed up over 500 movies.
First off though you dont burn with Shrink as it dosent do this.
Here is what produces great quality Backups. Give it a try you will be immpressed with the results I am sure

1. Rip Movie to HD using DVD Decrypter in File Mode (Main movie only)
2. Reauthor in Shrink (Uncheck all except for 5.1CH english sound) When backing up I choose to create an ISO image to my HD.
3. Burn the Iso with Nero

Now keep in mind this is copying the main movie only and ushually get 1:1 back up sometimes it drops to 90% or so, but thats only the longer movies. If you want to copy all the extra crap that you will probably never watch any way then you need to use RB/CCE as sugested by Brobear. Shrink does pretty good at anything at %80 or higher (If you use the enhancements), but anything more than that Would not turn out to good.

The main reason's I do only the main movie
1. Compression (ushually none)
2. Speed (much faster to just work with main movie files)
3. Never run into thse issues others run into with the newer movies
4. I might watch the extra crap once (maybe)
5. Quality (see 1 above)

I guess you have to ask yourself do you want a quality movie with little or no compression? or do you want a move squeezed to %50 just so you can look at a music video or two? Of course all this is just an opinion, but I would much rather have a movie as close to the original in quality as possible.

 

bbmayo

Appears you understand the limitations of Shrink and some other programs. With the enhancements, I might even give it a bit more praise than you. I've used it at 65% to 75% with good results. Before v3.2 it seemed to start breaking up at about 70% to 75% compression.

Handling encoding under compression is the task and a number of programs start to fail over 20% load, 80% compression as you say. The blockbuster movies, like Troy and Lord of the Rings, in fact any of the really long modern movies are near 8 GB for the entire disc, with the movies alone running 6 to 7 GB. With Some of those, they put the extras on a second disc. Shrink as you admit, just doesn't cut it at this level and there is nothing to edit. So there are several of the good movies that Shrink just isn't a good choice for. I've noted capable apps, no need to repeat myself.

 

I've noticed a number of people use the wrong terms when referring to the DVD recording process. Sometimes you just have to take the statement in context. If someone says they burned a movie with Shrink, we know Shrink was in the mix and not as the actual burner. For the newbies, I'll just break it into the 3 easy steps the process consists of when compression is needed; otherwise it's just a simple decrypt and record. The steps to DVD recording are:
1)[bold]Rip[/bold]; this is the process of decrypting the movie and with a program such as DVD Decrypter, copying to the hard drive. One could say they ripped the Video_TS folder to the C: drive with Decrypter.

One could add [bold]editing[/bold], but that isn't a required step in all cases.

2) [bold]Encode[/bold]; this is the process of compressing the movie to fit the target media.

3) [bold]Burn[/bold]; the physical process of recording the DVD or CD media. This requires a software application, either part of a recording program like DVDCopy3 or a separate program like the Nero burning ROM. The recording drive is referred to as a burner, and the recording software is commonly referred to as a burner app or burner program.

So, it's [bold]Rip + Encode + Burn = DVD Backup[/bold] I sometimes catch myself saying "burning" a movie when I mean doing a backup. So, I try to take things as people mean them. Sometimes though, people say things in a way as to make interpretation difficult. I try to do the best I can and hope the old hands will forgive me when I make a mistake.

 

Here is a method of recording with Shrink that is quick and eliminates all but the Menu, which most of us like to retain. Troy, one of the blockbuster length movies, is the example here.

My method for doing Troy with Shrink:
Have AnyDVD running in the background (latest version).
Put movie in DVD ROM.
Place recordable media in burner.
Open Shrink.
Select Open Disc.
After program does initial analysis check segments under Full Disc

Backup / DVD Structure.
Large movie, so it's a good idea not to record Extras.
Click and highlight extras.
Move to right under Compression Settings,
In drop down window under Video, select Still Image with the Extras

highlighted (this inserts a still image instead of the files)
That leaves Menus and the Main Movie to be recorded.
Under Audio, select the sound tracks to keep.
Enter Backup
In window select Burn settings and set to 4X (fast burns aren't the

best)
Under Quality settings check both options.
Under DVD Region Free leave Region Free selected.
Under Target Device - Select Backup Target; in the drop down window

select your burner drive under Burn with Nero.
Click OK and proceed to record.

The above works as quickly as possible with good results. Remember

without the quality settings it is faster. Quality settings are for

the bigger movies, the smaller ones do okay without it. Learning the

difference comes with practice and analysing file size as compared to

quality. Pay attention to the compression levels. Usually about 15

to 20% and above is a good time to use the quality settings.
[bold]With the above method you get a movie only with a functional

menu. Under Re-author the menu won't function.[/bold]

For PCs of questionable resources (slow and older CPUs and low RAM) it

is best to Rip with DVD Decrypter, Create a Hard Disk Folder for the

Movie, and then burn separately. That keeps the RAM expenditure at

any one time at it's lowest. Be sure to turn off any programs running

in the background with small PCs.

 

I have tried everything here and I still can't get Friday Nights to work. Can someone tell me the best and easiest way to do this? I have gotten all the other movies to work.

 

If you've tried everything, then there is no more to try.

Seriously though, what have you tried with what programs?

Try the AnyDVD trial and the DVDCopy3 trial and see if those work.
http://www.slysoft.com
http://www.intervideo.com
http://www.dvddecrypter.com

Personally, I run AnyDVD all the time and rip my files to the hard drive with DVD Decrypter. Then I open the Video_TS folder with the DVDCopy3 and let the program encode and burn.

If you're intent on using some other software, let us know what it is and what you were doing.

Now where's Kreskin and that mayo jar?

 

I have anydvd running at all times. I mainly use dvd shrink. I tried dvd decrypter. I downloaded the trial version of dvdcopy3.

 

Did you use AnyDVD, DVD Decrypter and DVDCopy 3 the way I said? Also, did you pay attention to system and software requirements with DVDCopy3? If you're failing with this, at what point and what's happening?

 

what are the requirements? dvdcopy closes as soon i click burn.

 

Listed in the information on the InterVideo website. Direct X has to be 9 and the system has to meet minimum performance requirements. [bold]What brand and model is your PC, CPU and speed, amount RAM, size hard drive and amount free space and what is the operating system?[/bold]

 

hp 764c
2.66 ghz pent.4
1 gig ram
120gig,160gig & another 160gig hard drive
xp
16x dual layer writer

 

Strange, a failure with both Shrink and DVDCopy3. The system appears adequate as long as you're writing to drives with enough free space. Give a step by step description of what you're doing and any error messages when the process fails. Start with AnyDVD on and running and go to the failure. Forgot to ask, what brand and model is your burner drive and what media are you using?

 

I was just reading up on the problems that people are having backing up new movies using the ACSS encryption that Sony introduced. I am currently trying to back up The Forgotten and was using DVD shrink, which hung at about 6%. I have surfed other forums and the thought is that ACSS encodes garbage in when the disk is mastered. This is proving to be a tricky one. Others have mentioned that they cant copy Walking Tall. I did that one fine with shrink. I am waitng for a file to finish burning then I will try the forgotten with DVD Decryptor. I attempetd to rip the files with CLADDVD. Ripped fine but when I uses Shrink to compress it hung at about 6%. I will report back witht the results.

 

Just read jdwinty's thread his method works and there both free programs to use.

thz jdwinty