recently purchased the Sony DRU 810A and bought some Sony DVD-R’s for it. The burner came with the Nero software and I’m having problems copying DVD’s. I turned on Any DVD and used Nero ROM to copy DVD’s, the first one I did looked like it was working but then came up with something that said problems reading or something like that and it had to cancel. So there goes one, tried to do it again and it was able to copy but the program kept saying something like unavoidable read error but after watching the copy, it looked like it worked bu what did those errors mean? I then tried to copy another DVD but it stopped at like 30%, canceled it then put it another DVD-R and it stopped at 59%, tried another one and it stopped at 60%. For some reason these three kept stopping and it was taking a long time. I thought burning DVD’s were just as quick as CD’s. The first and only successful one I had took about 30 minutes…is that how fast it is supposed to be? I need help please…thanks!!! Mike
DVD backups are a bit more complicated than CDs, as you've noticed. A 4X burn usually runs in the neighborhood of 15 minutes and a 6X at about 10 to 12. I don't recommend burning any faster, at least not over 8X with good equipment and media. You're using the right decryption software, it's hard to beat AnyDVD. However, with Nero you may be using the wrong app. You have to fit the source to the target. In other words the factory DVDs are usually higher content than the 4.7 discs (which only hold 4.37GB). If you're doing DL, it should record 1:1. But if recording to the 4.7, you need a program such as Recode 2, part of the Nero Ultra, to transcode (shrink) the factory DVD to fit, if the content of the factory disc is larger than 4.37GB. Another thing to remember is that you need enough HD freespace to do the movie. A rule of thumb is to have twice the size of the DVD to be backed up in freespace. As an example, a 6GB DVD should be safe with 12GB of HD freespace. By the way, the entire process of doing a backup, including transcoding can take an hour or so. There's usually more to it than just burning. The backup process includes decryption, transcoding, and burning. With AnyDVD, the decryption takes place as the transcoding is done, so that isn't added on, but trancoding is separate from burning though "burning" is the term sometimes given to the backup process.
I'm sorry but what is at DL? So you're saying that if I just want to copy a DVD to a DVD-R, I need to use Nero Ultra? Where do I find the program called Recode 2 under that? Is there anyway you can show me step by step on what to do? Also, why did I get those errors? Does the DVD have to be really clean? I'm just trying to back up my almost 3 year olds DVD's especially since he likes to carry them everywhere he goes so they get scratched up and stuff? What do you think? Thanks!!! Mike
Guides for the programs included in the Nero Ultra package are available for download from the Nero website. They explain the software usage better than I can, they are professionally written guides. You need the free Adobe Reader to open the guides in pdf format. Recode 2 is part of the Nero Ultra package. The program package is also available from other sources. You can check around for better pricing. Your log from the Nero program used would be useful if you could find and post it and if you saved it. A number of things could have caused the problem, among those being the source was too large for the target media (movie files bigger than the disc you want to record to). Not enough disc space. No way of really knowing without specific error codes or the log. DL is merely dual layer media which holds about 8.5GB of data. If you record anything larger than 4.37GB to a 4.7 disc, you need to shrink it with a program like Recode 2. The OEM version you have may not have that program. As I said, look at Nero's website if you like Nero. An easier program to use is CloneDVD 2. You have to have a program like AnyDVD to bypass the factory copyright protection. You can get a trial for both AnyDVD (to bypass encryption) and CloneDVD 2 (to process and size movie files and record) at http://www.slysoft.com/ . These 2 are the easiest way to do backups. You can read about how AnyDVD works at the Slysoft website. With CloneDVD2 you simply open the files and follow the program directions. It's that simple. AnyDVD works on its own, so it's no bother either. Follow system recommendations which should include the system specs you should have and the amount of hard drive free space required.
I was able to burn a few DVD's but a few I had problems with. I guess my question is: does a bad DVD-scratches, skips, and etc...make a difference because I get a lot of read errors when the DVD's are being analyzed? My (almost 3 yr old)kid loves his DVD's and carries them everywhere he goes. I guess if it does cause problems in recording you can ignore the following: Burn settings: Target: Hard disk folder Number of copies: 1 Target folder: C:\Documents and Settings\Mike & Beth\My Documents\Nero Recode (32916525056 bytes free) Shutdown when finished: false Advanced Analysis: false Compress Adaptive: false 17:37:34 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 231 Compile DVD: init VTS_01 Title Vobs [3362 vobus] 2738.28MB -> 2738.28MB [R 1.00] Video: 2436.05MB, extra: 302.23MB Audio: 3 streams 0. 0. Dolby Digital 2-ch Unspecified 75.94MB [enabled] 1. 1. Dolby Digital 5.1-ch Unspecified 152.11MB [enabled] 2. 2. Dolby Digital 2-ch Unspecified 65.45MB [enabled] Subpicture: 1 streams 0. 0. English 2.15MB [enabled] 17:38:05 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 1152 Compile DVD: begin copy 1 17:38:05 File NeroRecorder.cpp, Line 122 Writing to harddrive folder started 17:38:05 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 479 Compile DVD: burning 2282925 sectors (1402033 required) 17:38:05 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 656 Compile DVD: adjust target size to 4458.84MB (2738.35MB obtained) 17:38:05 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 524 Compiling DVD Volume started 17:47:56 File NeroRecorder.cpp, Line 593 Added extra file VTS_01_2.VOB 17:54:36 File NeroRecorder.cpp, Line 593 Added extra file VTS_01_3.VOB 17:54:56 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 381 Failed to read from the file ^. 17:54:56 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 382 Compiling DVD volume failed 17:54:56 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 301 Compile DVD: exit 17:54:57 File burner.cpp, Line 961 Failed to read from the file 8‰±Š. Here's another one: Burn settings: Target: SONY DVD RW DRU-810A Number of copies: 1 Write speed: 0 KB/s Temp folder: C:\Documents and Settings\Mike & Beth\My Documents\Nero Recode (29252775936 bytes free) Direct burning: false Target media: DVD R/RW, DVD DL, DVD-RAM NeroDigital profile: Maximum Definition Shutdown when finished: false Advanced Analysis: false Compress Adaptive: false 18:46:54 File burn_ndigital.cpp, Line 158 NeroDigital: init 18:47:25 File NeroRecorderBase.cpp, Line 488 Writing to disc: DVD-R 18:47:25 File NeroRecorderBase.cpp, Line 502 Free capacity on disc: 2292150 sectors (2298496) 18:47:25 File burn_ndigital.cpp, Line 269 NeroDigital: burning 2292150 sectors (2282925 required) 18:47:25 File burn_ndigital.cpp, Line 301 NeroDigital: Adjusting target size 18:47:25 File burn_ndigital.cpp, Line 343 NeroDigital: beginning 1st-pass operation 18:47:25 File burn_ndigital.cpp, Line 697 NeroDigital: encode ELF Title 1 Source: Size (720,480) Display Aspect Ratio (16,9) Deinterlace enabled Cropping enabled (2, 6, 0, 12) Resizing enabled (720,384) Pixel ratio (1,1) Bitrate: 6298477 bps 18:47:25 File burn_ndigital.cpp, Line 722 Nth-pass file = C:\DOCUME~1\MIKE&B~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\\ELF Title 1a03992.bin 18:47:25 File burn_ndigital.cpp, Line 1192 NeroDigital: building graph Audio channels = 2 Profile = 4 Bitrate = 160 RCmode = 2 Sampling rate = 48000 18:47:28 File burn_ndigital.cpp, Line 1672 failed to render video preview: 0x80040218 18:47:28 File burn_ndigital.cpp, Line 924 NeroDigital: waiting for graph to complete 19:10:44 File burn_ndigital.cpp, Line 1008 received EC_ERRORABORT (138, 0) 19:11:02 File burn_ndigital.cpp, Line 638 Failed to read from the file ^. 19:11:02 File burn_ndigital.cpp, Line 639 NeroDigital: Compiling volume failed 19:11:03 File burn_ndigital.cpp, Line 200 NeroDigital: exit 19:11:04 File burner.cpp, Line 961 Failed to read from the file øÔ¯Š. And one more: Burn settings: Target: SONY DVD RW DRU-810A Number of copies: 1 Write speed: 0 KB/s Temp folder: C:\Documents and Settings\Mike & Beth\My Documents\Nero Recode (29250686976 bytes free) Direct burning: true Target media: DVD R/RW, DVD DL, DVD-RAM Shutdown when finished: false Advanced Analysis: false Compress Adaptive: false 19:37:32 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 231 Compile DVD: init VTS_01 Title Vobs [11553 vobus] 3661.13MB -> 3207.51MB [R 1.00] Video: 2552.63MB, extra: 654.88MB Audio: 4 streams 0. 0. Dolby Digital 5.1-ch English 337.98MB [enabled] 1. 1. Dolby Digital 5.1-ch Spanish 337.98MB [disabled] 2. 2. Dolby Digital 2-ch English- Director's Comment 144.78MB [enabled] 3. 3. Dolby Digital 2-ch English- Director's Comment 144.78MB [enabled] Subpicture: 11 streams 0. 0. Unspecified 4.79MB [enabled] 1. [unavailable] 2. [unavailable] 3. [unavailable] 4. [unavailable] 5. [unavailable] 6. [unavailable] 7. [unavailable] 8. [unavailable] 9. [unavailable] 10. [unavailable] 19:38:02 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 1152 Compile DVD: begin copy 1 19:38:02 File NeroRecorderBase.cpp, Line 488 Writing to disc: DVD-R 19:38:02 File NeroRecorderBase.cpp, Line 502 Free capacity on disc: 2286468 sectors (2298496) 19:38:03 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 479 Compile DVD: burning 2286468 sectors (1642316 required) 19:38:03 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 656 Compile DVD: adjust target size to 4465.76MB (3207.65MB obtained) 19:38:03 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 524 Compiling DVD Volume started 19:38:13 File vob_record.cpp, Line 643 DirectBurn offset: VTS_01_1.VOB 96 ----- Begin NeroAPI error log ----- Windows XP 5.1 IA32 WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=1, 0, 0, 0, size=36864 bytes, created 12/7/2000 4:00:00 AM ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\NeroVision\NeroFiles\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 11/2/2004 12:54:32 PM NT-SPTI used Nero API version: 6.6.1.4 Using interface version: 6.6.0.9 Installed in: C:\Program Files\Ahead\NeroVision\NeroFiles\ Application: Ahead\Nero Recode Internal Version: 6, 6, 1, 4d Recorder: <SONY DVD RW DRU-810A> Version: 1.0d - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.1.4 Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1 Drive buffer : 2048kB Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ? === Scsi-Device-Map === DiskPeripheral : MAXTOR 6L080J4 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On CdRomPeripheral : SONY DVD RW DRU-810A atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On CdRomPeripheral : HL-DT-ST DVD-ROM GDR8160B atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On CdRomPeripheral : HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8400B atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On === CDRom-Device-Map === HL-DT-ST DVD-ROM GDR8160B D: CDRom1 SONY DVD RW DRU-810A E: CDRom0 HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8400B F: CDRom2 ======================= AutoRun : 1 Excluded drive IDs: WriteBufferSize: 40894464 (0) Byte ShowDrvBufStat : 0 BUFE : 0 Physical memory : 255MB (261424kB) Free physical memory: 83MB (85984kB) Memory in use : 67 Uncached PFiles: 0x0 Use Inquiry : 1 Global Bus Type: default (0) Check supported media : Disabled (0) 20.3.2006 NeroAPI 7:38:03 PM #1 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 281 Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB) Last address to be written: -1 ( 0:00.-1, 0MB) 7:38:03 PM #2 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 293 Write in overburning mode: NO 7:38:03 PM #3 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2612 Recorder: SONY DVD RW DRU-810A, Media type: DVD-R Disc Manufacturer: SONY16 - D1 Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193 7:38:03 PM #4 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 459 >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<< ========================================= 7:38:03 PM #5 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 38 SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FCTL_LOCK_VOLUME 7:38:03 PM #6 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 83 SPTIDismountVolume - completed successfully for FSCTL_DISMOUNT_VOLUME 7:38:03 PM #7 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2707 Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode for Multisession 7:38:03 PM #8 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2863 Start write address at LBA 0 DVD high compatibility mode: No 7:38:03 PM #9 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8647 ---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ---- Media Type: 0, Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050 Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 2.0x (5), Extended Part Version: 0.0 (0) Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h) Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW) End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 0 h End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB) Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h Start sector number of the next Border-In: 0 h Media Specific [16..63]: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................ 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................ 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................ 7:38:03 PM #10 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 1010 Estimated filesystem size: 544 7:38:03 PM #11 Phase 36 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 275 Burn process started at 2.4x (3,324 KB/s) 7:38:13 PM #12 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 677 Reserved fragment at 0. Length: 592 7:38:13 PM #13 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 1887 Reserved start fragment at 0 7:38:13 PM #14 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 677 Reserved fragment at 592. Length: 48 7:38:13 PM #15 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 1409 Writing VTS_01_1.VOB at sector 640 7:48:49 PM #16 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 2647 Finished writing file VTS_01_1.VOB of size 1073739776 bytes (524287 sectors) 7:48:49 PM #17 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 2259 Added extra file VTS_01_2.VOB 7:48:49 PM #18 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 1409 Writing VTS_01_2.VOB at sector 524927 7:49:17 PM #19 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 2647 Finished writing file VTS_01_2.VOB of size 43177984 bytes (21083 sectors) Existing drivers: File 'Drivers\CDRALW2K.SYS': Ver=5.1.1.210, size=23721 bytes, created 5/8/2005 7:12:47 PM File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.28a, size=20640 bytes, created 3/11/2005 5:28:13 PM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K) File 'Drivers\InCDfs.SYS': Ver=4, 3, 14, 1, size=99456 bytes, created 4/12/2005 11:07:50 AM (InCD4 driver for win NT/2K/XP) File 'Drivers\InCDpass.SYS': Ver=4, 3, 14, 1, size=29056 bytes, created 4/12/2005 11:07:30 AM (InCD4 driver for win NT/2K/XP) File 'Drivers\InCDrec.SYS': Ver=4, 3, 14, 1, size=8704 bytes, created 4/12/2005 11:07:54 AM (InCD4 driver for win NT/2K/XP) Registry Keys: HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option) ----- End NeroAPI error log ----- 19:49:45 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 381 Failed to read from the file ^. 19:49:45 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 382 Compiling DVD volume failed 19:49:45 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 301 Compile DVD: exit 19:49:45 File burner.cpp, Line 961 Failed to read from the file Xî¿Š. If these scratches and other stuff doesn't matter...what does all this mean and how can I avoid getting these read errors adn start burning things right? Thanks for your help!!! Mike Mike
Disk condition is very important. That's why we back up the originals to keep them from getting damaged. Scratches and smudges can cause serious read errors. Even a big, greasy fingerprint can cause a problem. So, ideally the disk should be scratch free and have a clean, polished surface. Minor scratches are to be expected, but after a point the laser can't read through the outer layer to read the recorded layer(s) inside. Cleaning and polishing can help. For badly scratched DVDs I use Skip Dr to remove scratches. If the scratches are really bad or gouged into the inner disk, not much will help.
@mossimo81...sorry to hear you're having problems with the sony..i love mine so much i went & bout another 1...good luck.
The sony isn't the problem, The thread title could have been just as easily "Problems Burning DVD's with a PC". This thread appears to be focused more on the software and media than any particular equipment. So, a better title would have been "Problems doing backups with Nero" and the thread should have been posted to the Nero section. But the newbie section catches most of the newbie posts till they learn there are other sections specializing in particualar software and hardware topics. Newbies don't always know where the problems are till they ask. So, it's a learning process.
mossimo81, Just a few suggestions, 1.) Update your burners' firmware. I noticed it is at 1.0d, and the current rev. is 2.0d. Go here to do so, and click on the small 2.0d next to 'new'. http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=2186 Some have said this is 'risky', but I think that is more related to modified or 'hacked' firmware. I have my 810UL/A (depends who you ask) and it worked fine. 2.) Also, uninstall Nero InCD from your PC as this can cause problems when burning. 3.) In the screen in Nero Recode where you click on the 'burn' button, uncheck the 'burn at once' option before you burn. Doing this will allow Nero and PC to fully encode the movie you are burning, before it burns it. 'Burn at once' basically tells the drive/PC to encode a little then burn, encode a little, then burn, etc. I've had problems with this before. I feel your pain with the Sony 810UL/A... as I can't get the thing to burn dual-layer discs with my desktop. Works ok with my laptop though... can't figure it out. Single-layer discs work fine too. Try these (3) things, hope it helps. Good luck! gsmackfan
Sony has a good support site and the firmware version listed for the DRU-810A is 1.0D. If Sony has the 2.0D, they haven't posted it to their support site yet. Check with Sony Support. http://sony.storagesupport.com/dvdrw/dru810adwn.htm It's fairly safe to update firmware as long as it's the firmware suggested and supplied by the manufacturer. Hacked firmware may be good in some cases, but it can be dangerous for the drive, if it doesn't match up properly. gsmackfan is right about removing InCD from the Nero installation. Batch writing software, whether InCD or another source, can cause problems as it likes to keep contact with the burner drive and can interfere with other apps trying to use the burner. The Burn at Once is referred to as "burning on the fly". It takes a good quick system with plenty of RAM to do it properly. To be on the safe side, it's best for most to not use the option. In fact Nero mentions not to use it if doing more than one disk as it may then take longer. Best to let the system create the complete temp file and then burn it all at once.
A couple of things I noticed This version of Nero contained some bugs so I would recommend you uninstall that version, run clean tool from here http://ww2.nero.com/nero6/en/Clean_Tools.html to remove all traces of Nero6. Then I would install this version of Nero which is bug free http://httpdl2.usw.nero.com/Nero-6.6.0.18.exe http://httpdl1.usw.nero.com/Nero-6.6.0.18.exe This also will cause a problem, the recommended amount of RAM is 512meg so I would add a further 256meg, in the meantime do not multitask while burning. I see that you also have Roxio installed, it is reported by the knowlegable members here at AD that Roxio and Nero clash, they recommend uninstalling Roxio. These changes along with others recommended should get you on your way, good luck.
Probably a sound group of suggestions if there are additional problems. However, if the problem is with saratched up DVDs, just try one in good condition to see if everything is working okay. As an owner of Roxio, I can say on some systems there isn't a problem. I only needed to turn off Drag to Disc when recording DVDs. Like Nero's InCD, Roxio has the Drag to Disc as a batch writing app. Batch writing software can cause interference with the burner sometimes when trying to record a DVD. I was able to turn off Drag to Disc and Roxio played well with Nero and everything else. It is suggested that InCD be removed. For batch writing software in general, the suggestions are first try turning it off (if possible) to see if that works before making the decision to delete. If for some reason you need to remove Roxio, there is a clean up tool for it as well, Roxizap; sort of like Nero's Clean Tools. [bold]First try backing up an unscratched disc that's in good condition. That may be your only problem for now.[/bold] If not, we're here to help.
By the way, Gwen was right on the 6.6.1.4. Here's a link for the older 6.6.0.18 which was more stable, if you do find you need it. Depends on the sytem. Some people have been doing okay with the last release. ftp://ftp.nero.com/software/Nero6/Nero-6.6.0.18_no_yt.exe
The UL is the external version and Sony does have the 2.0D firmware version listed for it. As I mentioned before, you should check with Sony support. They should be able to give you an answer on that.
1.0d is the latest firmware for the Sony DRU-810A, http://sony.storagesupport.com/dvdrw/dru810adwn.htm Do not try to flash it with 2.0d for the DRU-810UL. Anyways, I have the Sony DRU-810A and have not had any problems with it. I suggest using AnyDVD and CloneDVD to make your backups. It is sooo simple to use and makes good quality backups. They even have a free 21 day trial. It is almost idiot proof! Cheers!
