Problems during lead-in

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  1. emorgoch

    emorgoch Member

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    Ever since I got my new system, Nero has given me trouble burning Data DVDs. The problem that I'm having is that the burn process just hangs during the lead-in. The DVD-drive will repeatedly spin up and down for the next 15 - 25 minutes in a ~4 second cycle, then the burn process will fail. However, no data is written to the disc, and I can immediately turn around and burn onto it again. This is not a consistant problem, hit and miss with about a 60% failure rate. I noticed this with Nero 6.6.0.16, and thought that I'd try 7.0.12 (demo), but that didn't fix the problem either (clean OS install). Anyone got some thoughts? (Burner is an LG GSA-4163)

    Windows XP 5.1
    IA32
    WinAspi: -
    ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero 7\Core\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 11/02/2004 12:54:32 PM

    NT-SPTI used
    Nero Version: 7.0.1.2
    Internal Version: 7, 0, 1, 2

    Recorder: <HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B>Version: A105 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.0.1.2
    Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1
    Drive buffer : 2048kB
    Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
    CD-ROM: <HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B>Version: A105 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.0.1.2
    Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1

    === Scsi-Device-Map ===
    DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 6Y160P0 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
    DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 6Y080L0 atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On
    CdRomPeripheral : HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: Off
    DiskPeripheral : ST3160827AS nvatabus Port 3 ID 0 DMA: Off
    CdRomPeripheral : SCSIVAX DVD/CD-ROM 2.7a Vax347s Port 4 ID 0 DMA: Off
    CdRomPeripheral : SCSIVAX DVD/CD-ROM 2.7a Vax347s Port 4 ID 1 DMA: Off

    === CDRom-Device-Map ===
    HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B H: CDRom0
    SCSIVAX DVD/CD-ROM I: CDRom1
    SCSIVAX DVD/CD-ROM J: CDRom2
    =======================

    AutoRun : 1
    Excluded drive IDs:
    WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
    ShowDrvBufStat : 0
    BUFE : 0
    Physical memory : 1022MB (1046952kB)
    Free physical memory: 527MB (539792kB)
    Memory in use : 48
    Uncached PFiles: 0x0
    Use Inquiry : 1
    Global Bus Type: default (0)
    Check supported media : Disabled (0)

    10.12.2005
    ISO compilation
    1:28:38 AM #1 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6411
    Iso document burn settings
    ------------------------------------------
    Determine maximum speed : FALSE
    Simulate : FALSE
    Write : TRUE
    Finalize CD : TRUE
    Multisession : FALSE
    Burning mode : DAO
    Mode : 1
    ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
    Character set : ISO 9660
    Joliet : TRUE
    Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
    Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
    Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

    1:28:38 AM #2 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 525
    ReadBuffer-Pipe got 262144KB of Memory

    1:28:38 AM #3 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 124
    Reader running

    1:28:38 AM #4 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 113
    Writer H: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B running

    1:28:38 AM #5 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3312
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    1:28:38 AM #6 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3302
    Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

    1:28:38 AM #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 279
    Last possible write address on media: 2295103 (510:01.28, 4482MB)
    Last address to be written: 2186143 (485:48.43, 4269MB)

    1:28:38 AM #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 291
    Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

    1:28:38 AM #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2578
    Recorder: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B, Media type: DVD+R
    Disc Manufacturer ID: RITEK, Media Type ID: R03, Product revision number: 2
    Disc Application Code: 0, Extended Information Indicators: 3

    1:28:38 AM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 458
    >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
    =========================================

    1:28:38 AM #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 847
    Setup items (after recorder preparation)
    0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
    2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
    original disc pos #0 + 2186144 (2186144) = #2186144/485:48.44
    relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2186144 blocks [H: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B]
    --------------------------------------------------------------

    1:28:38 AM #12 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1059
    Prepare recorder [H: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
    DAO infos:
    ==========
    MCN: ""
    TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
    Tracks 1 to 1:
    1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4477222912, ISRC ""
    DAO layout:
    ===========
    __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
    0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
    0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
    0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
    2186144 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

    1:28:38 AM #13 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 36
    SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FCTL_LOCK_VOLUME

    1:28:38 AM #14 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725
    Caching of files started

    1:28:39 AM #15 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4132
    Cache writing successful.

    1:28:39 AM #16 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725
    Caching of files completed

    1:28:39 AM #17 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725
    Burn process started at 8x (11,080 KB/s)

    1:28:39 AM #18 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2685
    Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

    1:28:39 AM #19 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8411
    ---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
    Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
    Book Type: DVD+R (10), Part Version: 1.0x (1)
    Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
    Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
    Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
    Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
    End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26053F h
    End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
    Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
    Disc Application Code: 0 / 0 h
    Extended Information indicators: 3 h
    Disc Manufacturer ID: RITEK...
    Media type ID: R03
    Product revision number: 2
    Number of Physical format information bytes in use in ADIP up to byte 63: 56
    Media Specific [16..63]:
    00 00 03 52 49 54 45 4B - 00 00 00 52 30 33 02 38 ...RITEK...R03.8
    23 54 37 20 00 5D 6C 00 - B2 67 15 15 0B 0B 08 08 #T7..]l..g......
    01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

    1:28:39 AM #20 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5400
    Drive: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B
    Book Type request [LG]: DVD-ROM
    Changing the Book Type was finished successfully, return code 0

    1:28:39 AM #21 CDR -1207 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5330
    Book Type automatically set to: DVD-ROM

    1:28:39 AM #22 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 666
    Start write address at LBA 0
    DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

    1:38:44 AM #23 SPTI -600 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 323
    H: CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x00) WinError(121) NeroError(-600)
    Sense Key: 0x00 (KEY_NO_SENSE)
    Sense Code: 0x00
    Sense Qual: 0x00
    CDB Data: 0x2A 00 00 00 02 20 00 00 20 00 00 00
    Sense Area: 0x00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    Buffer x03c80000: Len x10000
    0x06 A0 1A 03 0F E1 B0 7C 0F F9 C1 F0 3F DB 08 67
    0x95 1F 0A 60 55 03 78 30 96 E0 60 86 7C 1F 03 FD
    0xD0 61 FC 1A 83 E0 7F DA 0C 01 41 4C 07 B0 6F 07

    1:38:44 AM #24 CDR -600 File Writer.cpp, Line 302
    Device not available
    H: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B

    1:38:44 AM #25 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
    all writers idle, stopping conversion

    1:38:44 AM #26 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222
    conversion idle, stopping reader

    1:38:44 AM #27 SPTI -1114 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 323
    H: CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1114)
    Sense Key: 0x06 (KEY_UNIT_ATTENTION)
    Sense Code: 0x29
    Sense Qual: 0x00
    CDB Data: 0x35 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    Sense Area: 0x70 00 06 00 00 00 00 10 00 00 00 0E 29

    1:38:44 AM #28 Phase 127 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725
    Generating DVD high compatibility borders

    1:38:50 AM #29 Phase 129 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725
    Generating DVD borders completed successfully

    1:38:50 AM #30 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725
    Burn process failed at 8x (11,080 KB/s)


    Existing drivers:

    Registry Keys:
    HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

    ====== *** Nero Burning ROM, History File *** ======
     
  2. whompus

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    The only thing I can see is dma is off for the burner and should be on.

    You might want to try burning at 4x instead of 8x

    You also might want to check for conflicts with existing drivers that you removed from the log before posting it.
     
  3. emorgoch

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    I didn't remove the drivers, none are there when an error occurs. As for DMA Mode, I tried turning it on (setting the secondary IDE controller to "DMA if possible", but it's still use PIO).

    Here's a cut from a successful burn. Even those aren't showing the drivers:

    Windows XP 5.1
    IA32
    WinAspi: -
    ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero 7\Core\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 11/02/2004 12:54:32 PM

    NT-SPTI used
    Nero Version: 7.0.1.2
    Internal Version: 7, 0, 1, 2
    (Nero Express)
    Recorder: <HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B>Version: A105 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.0.1.2
    Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1
    Drive buffer : 2048kB
    Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
    CD-ROM: <HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B>Version: A105 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.0.1.2
    Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1

    === Scsi-Device-Map ===
    DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 6Y160P0 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
    DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 6Y080L0 atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On
    CdRomPeripheral : HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: Off
    DiskPeripheral : ST3160827AS nvatabus Port 3 ID 0 DMA: Off
    CdRomPeripheral : SCSIVAX DVD/CD-ROM 2.7a Vax347s Port 4 ID 0 DMA: Off
    CdRomPeripheral : SCSIVAX DVD/CD-ROM 2.7a Vax347s Port 4 ID 1 DMA: Off

    === CDRom-Device-Map ===
    HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B H: CDRom0
    SCSIVAX DVD/CD-ROM I: CDRom1
    SCSIVAX DVD/CD-ROM J: CDRom2
    =======================

    AutoRun : 1
    Excluded drive IDs:
    WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
    ShowDrvBufStat : 0
    BUFE : 0
    Physical memory : 1022MB (1046952kB)
    Free physical memory: 361MB (370512kB)
    Memory in use : 64
    Uncached PFiles: 0x0
    Use Inquiry : 1
    Global Bus Type: default (0)
    Check supported media : Disabled (0)

    9.12.2005
    ISO compilation
    7:59:53 PM #1 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6411
    Iso document burn settings
    ------------------------------------------
    Determine maximum speed : FALSE
    Simulate : FALSE
    Write : TRUE
    Finalize CD : TRUE
    Multisession : FALSE
    Burning mode : DAO
    Mode : 1
    ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
    Character set : ISO 9660
    Joliet : TRUE
    Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
    Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
    Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

    7:59:53 PM #2 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 525
    ReadBuffer-Pipe got 262144KB of Memory

    7:59:53 PM #3 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 124
    Reader running

    7:59:53 PM #4 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 113
    Writer H: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B running

    7:59:53 PM #5 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3312
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    7:59:53 PM #6 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3302
    Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

    7:59:53 PM #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 279
    Last possible write address on media: 2295103 (510:01.28, 4482MB)
    Last address to be written: 1167919 (259:32.19, 2281MB)

    7:59:53 PM #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 291
    Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

    7:59:53 PM #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2578
    Recorder: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B, Media type: DVD+R
    Disc Manufacturer ID: RITEK, Media Type ID: R03, Product revision number: 2
    Disc Application Code: 0, Extended Information Indicators: 3

    7:59:53 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 458
    >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
    =========================================

    7:59:53 PM #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 847
    Setup items (after recorder preparation)
    0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
    2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
    original disc pos #0 + 1167920 (1167920) = #1167920/259:32.20
    relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 1167920 blocks [H: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B]
    --------------------------------------------------------------

    7:59:53 PM #12 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1059
    Prepare recorder [H: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
    DAO infos:
    ==========
    MCN: ""
    TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
    Tracks 1 to 1:
    1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 2391900160, ISRC ""
    DAO layout:
    ===========
    __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
    0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
    0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
    0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
    1167920 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

    7:59:53 PM #13 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 36
    SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FCTL_LOCK_VOLUME

    7:59:53 PM #14 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725
    Caching of files started

    7:59:53 PM #15 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4132
    Cache writing successful.

    7:59:53 PM #16 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725
    Caching of files completed

    7:59:53 PM #17 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725
    Burn process started at 8x (11,080 KB/s)

    7:59:54 PM #18 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2685
    Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

    7:59:54 PM #19 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8411
    ---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
    Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
    Book Type: DVD+R (10), Part Version: 1.0x (1)
    Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
    Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
    Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
    Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
    End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26053F h
    End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
    Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
    Disc Application Code: 0 / 0 h
    Extended Information indicators: 3 h
    Disc Manufacturer ID: RITEK...
    Media type ID: R03
    Product revision number: 2
    Number of Physical format information bytes in use in ADIP up to byte 63: 56
    Media Specific [16..63]:
    00 00 03 52 49 54 45 4B - 00 00 00 52 30 33 02 38 ...RITEK...R03.8
    23 54 37 20 00 5D 6C 00 - B2 67 15 15 0B 0B 08 08 #T7..]l..g......
    01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

    7:59:54 PM #20 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5400
    Drive: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B
    Book Type request [LG]: DVD-ROM
    Changing the Book Type was finished successfully, return code 0

    7:59:54 PM #21 CDR -1207 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5330
    Book Type automatically set to: DVD-ROM

    7:59:54 PM #22 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 666
    Start write address at LBA 0
    DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

    8:14:48 PM #23 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116
    <H: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B> start writing Lead-Out at LBA 1167920 (11D230h), length 0 blocks

    8:14:48 PM #24 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
    all writers idle, stopping conversion

    8:15:11 PM #25 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1725
    Burn process completed successfully at 8x (11,080 KB/s)


    Existing drivers:

    Registry Keys:
    HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
     
  4. whompus

    whompus Active member

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    That is odd. I can not see deferance in the one that failed and the one that didnt.

    Can you tell me what this device is from the log?
    DiskPeripheral : ST3160827AS nvatabus Port 3 ID 0 DMA: Off
     
  5. emorgoch

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    See Time index 01:38:44 in the first log. That's where the difference is.

    As for the "ST3160827AS nvatabus Port 3 ID 0 DMA: Off"; Seagate Barracudda 7200.8 SATA 160GB HDD. Stored on this disk are OS files (triple boot). The data being burned is on the Maxtor 160GB drive (for this particular instance). This error has occured burning from each of the three disk drives though.
     
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    I thought it was a sata hdd but wanted to be sure. Have you checked to see if there is controler update for it?

    About the difference that is what I meant. I see no difference in settings from one to the other Same media and all. So one error out and other not is odd. I have heard of problems with nvida drivers and nero. Is that what the controler runs drivers from nvida?
     
  7. emorgoch

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    Yes, controller is nVidia. Motherboard is DFI LanParty UT SLI-D, running off the nForce 4 SLI Chipset. Originally I did install the IDE SW drivers, but changed the IDE controller back to the Microsoft ones. Left the SATA controller on the nVidia drivers though.

    I'm trying a new install on a second partition today. I didn't install the nVidia SW drivers on that one at all (nor have I installed any other software besides basic windows & motherboard drivers). Once graphics drivers are installed, I'll try putting Nero on next, and see if I have the same error or not.
     
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    That will be a good test. Should point to if is something from the nvida drivers or not. Keep us posted on the outcome.
     
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    Those nvatabus drivers are a pain for getting DMA sorted. there's a few threads with ths solution, will have to dig around, but i think the girst is to remove the Nvidia drivers and use standard Microsoft ones.
     
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    Did an install on a new partition, skipping the IDE SW drivers, and it seems to be working for now. Need to burn a lot of stuff off my system to clear some room, so I'll see how that goes, but it looks probmising so far.

    However, I do have one problem with not putting on those drivers as Microsoft is only listing IDE controllers in my deveice manager, rather than SATA controllers on which my OS driver is attached. AS well, I am planning on eventually getting a RAID setup going (once I have money for new HDDs), and I'll need to use the NV drivers then. Is this a known problem with Nero, and are Ahead/Nero aware and working on a solution for it?
     

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