Hello all, I have had a Lite-on LDW-811S for about 1.5 years now. My DVD videos never used to play that great (lots of jerkiness in the film) so i did a bit of research and came to the conclusion that it was the media that was the problem...Many people had said that Taiyo-Yuden were the best brand of media so i bought a 100 pack of them (TYG02). The first movie i burned was a backup of a film and it played perfectly on a PS2, so i assumed the problems were sorted. But now they've started coming back. I'm using the same batch of media, and i'm wondering whether my DVD-Writer is coming to the end of it's lifespan perhaps? Could that be why my dvd movies seem to be getting increasingly worse? I always use Nero (latest version) which i've never had much trouble with. I burn all the DVDs at 2x, don't use any other applications in the background or anything so could it be the DVD Writer?? I'm thinking about getting another dvd writer anyway, so could i have reccomendations on what's the absolute best DVD Writer out at the moment, and what's the best DVD Writer that i can get for about £30-£50?? Thanks, Nick
I've heard that Plextor's are the best, but overpriced. Here's a pretty good review of the BenQ DW1640 DVD-Writer, http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/226 And if you decide to purchase it, newegg.com has it for $42.99 (not Euros) shipped, I received mine yesterday, installed it, upgraded to latest firmware, installed software, backed up 3 DVD's, and it worked flawlessly. HTH, Rich
when was the last time you updated the firmware on your burner, current for this model is DR8HSOR http://www.liteonit.com/ODD/English/e_downloads/e_firmware_dvd rw.asp As far as burners go Lite on is still a reliable brand as well as BenQ which is usually priced well.
Hi, Yeah, my firmware's up-to-date already. I thought that Lite-On was a fairly reliable brand - the reason i bought one was because i remembered the reputation they used to have from when just cd writers were around. However, the only things i think it could be are old dvd writer or bad media...and i've burned about 20 TYG02's which haven't been that great, and for Taiyo Yuden i hear that's rare! So i really don't know what else it could be? OK great, the Plextor is probably slightly too expensive for me but the BenQ looks like a good buy! If i had to choose between the latest Lite-On SHW-1635S or the Pioneer DVR 110D, which one would you guys choose? I'm very fond of Lite-On, but maybe it's time to move on to replace it with a Pioneer (forget BenQ in this instance)? Is the Pioneer as good at copying cds as the Lite-on (including copy protected cds?)? Thanks, Nick
I hear lots of good things about the Pioneer, however if you plan on booktyping I am not sure if the Pioneer does this. So it may be something you want to check into.
Yes, i've just been looking into bookmarking?? I can't say i've ever changed the bookmark on anything before, but would i need to? What's it particularly useful for? All the DVD Players in my house play Taiyo Yuden DVD-Rs, apart from the X-box (and not very well in some cases) - would bookmarking change how well they play? And it's only used for DVD+Rs, isn't it? I barely use +R's because i want as much compatibility as possible therefore stick to -R's. Is it possible that i've installed something that has stopped the writer from making good quality burns? Like a driver conflict or something? I think recently i changed the IDE cable i was using because i upgraded my hard drive? Would this make a difference?
One of the reasons I bought the above Benq, was by default it is booktyped DVD-ROM, which all DVD players can play. From what I have seen some new DVD players TODAY are not able to play DVD-Rs. I had that problem when I changed IDE cables for a new harddrive, but it only effected the HD's. I went and bought those new cables that are round (I don't remember the name of them), and that fixed my problems. HTH, Rich
Ok, so i got my pioneer 110D....i've jst burned a video on Taiyo-Yuden TYG02 Discs, n it still came out choppy! I've been told that the TYG02 dye is out of date now nd not that great?? The same person also recommended DataSafe discs to me? Can anyone else do the same? Nick
i see you're from UK too. ps are you sure they are genuine TYG02's ?. either way, what burning program you using ?
Yes, i'm from UK. I bought my discs from this page : http://www.blankdiscshop.co.uk/acatalog/dvd-rnoprint.html and i bought the: {DV 3138} Taiyo Yuden (8x) Unbranded DVD-R in Heavy Duty Spindle Tubs of 100 So as u can see, i'm slightly annoyed that i payed £40 for them, and it turns out that about 90 of them could be coasters!! Oh well! I'm fairly sure they're not fakes - the description says that they are purchased from an official Taiyo Yuden distributor?? I'm using Nero (latest version) for burning. Would this make a difference perhaps??
As creaky would say post your Nero log, it can be found in My Computer, Program Files, Ahead, Nero, Nero History. Post the log using the Pioneer, and edit out your serial number. Also use the Nero Info Tool and check the firmware on that Pioneer, it could be out of date.
hi, those are the very same TYG02 i bought. svp only sell genuine TY discs, and you should have mentioned Nero 89 coasters ago, Nero's logs are a specialty of mine... time for my proverbial logfile request - post LAST section of logfile, in case you don't know where it is, it lives in c:\program files\ahead\nero\nerohistory.log, but DO NOT post your serial number which usually begins with '1A21' or similar (sorry, i copy/paste that toooo many times!)
Hi guys, thanks for the quick replies, really appreciate them! Heres the log : ------------ Windows XP 5.1 IA32 WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.71 (0002), size=45056 bytes, created 17/07/2002 09:20:56 ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 26/10/2004 18:35:34 Nero Version: 6.6.0.16 Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 16b Recorder: <PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D>Version: 1.22 - HA 1 TA 1 - 6.6.0.16 Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1 Drive buffer : 2000kB Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI CD-ROM: <LITE-ON DVDRW LDW-811S >Version: HS0R - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.16 Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1 === Scsi-Device-Map === DiskPeripheral : WDC WD2500JB-00KFA0 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 6E040L0 atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On CdRomPeripheral : LITE-ON DVDRW LDW-811S atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On CdRomPeripheral : PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On CdRomPeripheral : Generic DVD-ROM 1.0 d347prt Port 2 ID 0 DMA: Off === CDRom-Device-Map === LITE-ON DVDRW LDW-811S F: CDRom0 PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D G: CDRom1 Generic DVD-ROM H: CDRom2 ======================= AutoRun : 1 Excluded drive IDs: WriteBufferSize: 74448896 (0) Byte ShowDrvBufStat : 0 BUFE : 0 Physical memory : 511MB (523760kB) Free physical memory: 110MB (112776kB) Memory in use : 78 % Uncached PFiles: 0x0 Use Inquiry : 1 Global Bus Type: default (0) Check supported media : Disabled (0) 10.10.2005 Burn DVD Image 21:40:58 #1 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286 21:40:58.484 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D\H1 T1 : Queue again later 21:41:30 #2 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286 21:41:30.515 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D\H1 T1 : Queue again later 21:41:30 #3 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286 21:41:30.578 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D\H1 T1 : Queue again later 21:41:30 #4 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286 21:41:30.671 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D\H1 T1 : Queue again later 21:41:30 #5 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286 21:41:30.718 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D\H1 T1 : Queue again later 21:41:30 #6 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286 21:41:30.765 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D\H1 T1 : Queue again later 21:41:30 #7 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286 21:41:30.984 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D\H1 T1 : Queue again later 21:41:31 #8 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286 21:41:31.343 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D\H1 T1 : Queue again later 21:41:31 #9 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286 21:41:31.562 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D\H1 T1 : Queue again later 21:41:31 #10 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286 21:41:31.593 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D\H1 T1 : Queue again later 21:41:36 #11 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286 21:41:36.234 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D\H1 T1 : Queue again later 21:41:36 #12 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286 21:41:36.296 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D\H1 T1 : Queue again later 21:42:44 #13 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286 21:42:44.000 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D\H1 T1 : Queue again later 21:42:44 #14 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286 21:42:44.343 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D\H1 T1 : Queue again later 21:42:44 #15 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286 21:42:44.562 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D\H1 T1 : Queue again later 21:42:44 #16 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286 21:42:44.609 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D\H1 T1 : Queue again later 21:43:57 #17 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286 21:43:57.015 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D\H1 T1 : Queue again later 21:43:57 #18 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286 21:43:57.359 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D\H1 T1 : Queue again later 21:43:57 #19 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286 21:43:57.593 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D\H1 T1 : Queue again later 21:43:57 #20 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286 21:43:57.625 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D\H1 T1 : Queue again later 21:43:58 #21 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286 21:43:58.062 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D\H1 T1 : Queue again later 21:43:58 #22 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286 21:43:58.406 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D\H1 T1 : Queue again later 21:43:58 #23 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286 21:43:58.640 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D\H1 T1 : Queue again later 21:43:58 #24 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286 21:43:58.671 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D\H1 T1 : Queue again later 21:45:11 #25 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286 21:45:11.046 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D\H1 T1 : Queue again later 21:45:11 #26 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286 21:45:11.421 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D\H1 T1 : Queue again later 21:45:11 #27 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286 21:45:11.640 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D\H1 T1 : Queue again later 21:45:11 #28 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286 21:45:11.687 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D\H1 T1 : Queue again later 21:46:09 #29 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116 <PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D> start writing Lead-Out at LBA 750950 (B7566h), lenght 0 blocks 21:46:09 #30 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228 all writers idle, stopping conversion 21:46:09 #31 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2774 EndDAO: Last written address was 750943 21:46:33 #32 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832 Burn process completed successfully at 4x (5,540 KB/s) Existing drivers: File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.71 (0002), size=16877 bytes, created 17/07/2002 08:53:02 File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.28a, size=20640 bytes, created 11/03/2005 23:28:13 (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K) File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 04/08/2004 06:59:42 (Adapter driver for rec) Registry Keys: HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option) -------------- Hope this helps - is Nero not the best program for burning then?
all i can see wrong in the logfile is lack of free memory.. one way to rule out whether it's the player or the media is that if there's corruption in the burnt disc, you can verify by CRC checking it via dvdinfo (free trial download from www.dvdinfopro - make sure to pick the free one with adverts). if the CRC check comes back negative, the data on the disc should be fine, and it would be the standalone that's being fussy with the discs. for me, the only times a disc has skipped has been due to corruption on the burnt disc, it's not been due to fussy standalone players. ps also make sure you're not writing to the edge of discs, ie if you use DVD Shrink, set target size to 4300MB in Shrink's preferences, thus avoiding outer edge of discs and not sacrificing much space
OK that makes sense...the problem happens on 2 dvd players - my Portable DVD Player (which i thought could play anything!!) and my standalone DVD player. Could it be that these DVD players need a lens clean, perhaps?
Before anyone answers the previous question, i should probably add that normal DVD movies (non DVD-Rs) play fine on both...
Good call - just ran a CRC check on the 1.43 GB compilation that i just burned. Turns out there were 106 bad sectors, which means that 8.3592% were bad. I suppose that's not really that great, is it? What are CRC errors, and what can i do about them? Is it the media's fault, or the DVD writer's?
I would definately try some good dvd+r media booktyped dvd-rom. Here's a link to the lite-on booktype utility and there is also a link to a usage guide on that page. http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=83441 You could also try reseting the eeprom on your litey since if you were useing substandard media before you switched to good quality media. There's a link to the lite-on eeprom utility on that page also. If you want to booktype your dvd+r media to dvd-rom with the pioneer drive you will have to flash it with modified firmware called buffalo f/w. It will void the warranty on the drive. You will not have to do anything to your litey. It is already bitset/booktype ready. Mort
