Problems with New Sony: Boynton Beach Club/Running with Scissors

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  1. PacMan777

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    Surfgeo
    I missed it. What version of the RI4M are you using and with which FixVTS version?
     
  2. surfgeo

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    ri4m 1.6.8.0 (now it's 1690, but the update log showed the change from 80 to 90 was due to a problem with windows9x, and not anything that would have effected my (and others) problem.)

    fixvts 1.603

    i know everything was up to date at the time of use... same with fabdecryptor, which now has a newer version too... a lot can happen in 4 days!
     
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    Weird it is. Most people are getting the new releases without problems now. Hope you eventually figure out what's happening. It doesn't sound like the software. Too many people are being successful. But then, the software is never 100% on all systems.
     
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    Hi folks, I'm new to this site so forgive me if I reask the same ???. I experienced problems with "Running With Scissors" yesterday myself on 3 different PCs and 1 even locked up requiring a reset due to long shut down during restart. if DVD was inserted, without Any DVD, Shrink or Decryptor running, i could get the sSony auto start to load and show up in My Computer after exiting app. I could even brouse the DVD to see that there are more file and folders then the usual DVD. Attempting to open it in Shrink encounter an error, Decryptor sees it but has lots of pop up error messages boxes that I have to x out then finally closes. If I start Any DVD it takes a while to see it but then it is no longer sean by explorer in My Computer and of corse no other software to rip. I later came accross this site with a refference to RipIt4Me and just now finished ripping through Decryptor as ISO and will now folow up on shrinking to see how it goes.

    Are there some suggestions on the best optimized settings for both Decryptor and RipIt4Me to keep in mind? Thanks in advanced. I'll follow up later to let you guys know if it finally worked for me too.
     
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    Running With Scissors coppied complete as ISO and open in Alcohol 120% virtual drive to play fine in WinDVD 7 Platinum (even loaded the Sony splash menue). But now I can't get it to load in Shrink and partially loads in Nero Recode but reports back with a VTS structual error and has to close. Should I did it as file folder, NOT ISO? for Shrink to read it? Right now, I just burned it to DL -R DVD @ 4x and will see if I can then shrink that as I had to do w/ Monster Housh a few months ago. It also had the same type of extra folders in DVD with software type "Auto Run". How do I copy without the Jacket, Auto Run & Go files? I have the ISO image on HDD, Can it be removed from ISO file?
     
  6. paschal93

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    @NuckNFuts
    If you plan on opening in shink need to rip in full disk mode. If you plan on burning to a dual layer disk it is o.k. to rip in iso mode. If you want to copy without the Jacket folder there is option you uncheck under preferences. To explain when you rip in full disk mode fixvts is run, which cleans up the rip so it will open in shrink, in iso mode fixvts never runs, as there is not a way to run fixvts on iso.
     
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    You should have done the decryption rip in file mode so you could process for the VTS structural errors with FixVTS. Then you wouldn't need virtual drives to view your output. Then you could generate an ISO or whatever as a Shrink output option for burning. Like paschal93, I'd suggest RipIt4Me, in Full DVD, which opens the files in Shrink for you. It does the decryption, cleanup and processing with FixVTS for DVD compliance all from the 1-Click mode. http://www.RipIt4Me.org

    BTW, you can open ISOs in Shrink and Shrink has a viewer.
     
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    Back to "Running With Scissors"; It copied fine and plays great as a DL copy to DL -R but cannot copy the copy either as it still shows up as having some protection on disc in AnyDVD v6.1.1.4. I redid it all over but using 1 click mode and got a prompt to direct path to FixVts.exe, I just clicked OK and continued to Decryptor but now as File mode. In next step it prompted me to open FixVTS.exe but of corse I didnt know where it was as I only installed the RipIt4Me w/FixVTS included so I figured it should know where it was. I just directed folder to RipIt4Me.exe and I guess it excepted as it now moved to Decryptor as before but when done, it failed to open in Shrink. It ended up opening up and finishing w/ Ner Recode (Nero Ultra v7.1.5) as compressed to 4.74GB single layer DVD+R. What other Compressing software can tighten up as good as DVD Shrink, Recode can't compress as tight.
     
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    Oh ya, I noticed that when compressed weather by DVD Shrink or Nero Recode, only the Audio and Video "TS" folders get copied. Just curious. Is this nedded to shrink cause all is left in tact in ISO mode to DL disc.
     
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    The Audio_TS is a relic and nothing to be concerned about. I've never seen it used for anything. In fact if you delete an empty Audio_TS nothing happens. I don't pay any attention to it. All the audio and video are in the Video_TS folder. If you were to open an ISO file with Winrar you would see the Video_TS folder with the IFO, BUP and VOB files. As you may have noticed, when you burn the ISO and open the burned disc you find the Video_TS folder with the files. Except for it being the only supported burn option with some freeware burners, I don't see any difference between using ISO and the file method. When dealing with copy protection the files are best left in Video_TS (file) format till the "cleanup" is done.
     
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    update... for what it's worth... i was curious to see what would happen with upcoming sony releases (after the above described issues with "boynton beach" and "running with scissors"). this week i got "marie antoinette" and "half nelson"... both sony releases and my computer could both read them without problem, and back them up without problem using ripit4me. i did not try them on my other computers since i had no problem using my regular computer.

    so i wonder if last week's releases were different in some way regarding their protection, or if i just had all three of my computers simultaneously having similar glitches, or wtf?
     
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    LOL Probably a wtf. Weird stuff happens sometimes, glad to see you're back to normal.
     
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    Yeah surfgeo I think wtf is probably it :)

    Funny cause Marie Antoinette had more bad sectors than Running w/ Scissors.
    Half Nelson though didn't have the Sony stuff on it even though it is one of their releases. Decided to use Decrypter by it's lonesome then burned w/ Nero.

     
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    Musta been stuck in a flux capacitor zone. LOL
     
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    @pacman

    yeah, i hate it when that happens! damn flux capacitor zone! or whatever. i'm really appreciative to be back in the land of computer-and-software-and-dvds-work-as-they're-supposed-to. mo bettah da kine!

    @binkie

    howzit? aloha. hey, would you mind telling me how you determine what kind or extent of encryption/protection is on a dvd before deciding which software to use? you mentioned just using decrypter after seeing that "half nelson" had no real obstacles. just curious. might save me some time too. mahalo!
     
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    Aloha surfgeo
    I use AnyDVD. I have it set to show the media info. So once I see what's on it and the file size I go from there.
    I still like using the 'oldies' (shrink & decrypter) when I can :)


     
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    aloha binkie7!

    mahalo nui loa for that info. i will try that with anydvd and see what i can see. maybe learn some new stuff.

    aloha and a hui hou!
     
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    Not a problem surfgeo :)
    (I ran out of Hawaiian words to use - well since I only know 2 - not hard :0)

    Pretty neat - insert disc - AnyDVD pops up a window with all the info on it.
     
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    I had the exact same issue. I have AnyDVD with DVD Shrink and I put the "Running with Scissors" disc in and it crashed my whole IDE chain. It would not show a disc I could not eject it. I rebooted then I have to run find new hardware it found the drive again and then it would not work with an old movie did not show any discs. Rebooted about 10x times finally got it to work with a disc I copied before. Same issue on my other PC. I do not know what Sony has done but it jammed my system up. I have burned many of the other new Sony discs and thousands of movies overall first time I have seen a problem like this. Going to try DVDFab.
     
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    @timf72

    sorry to hear that you too were blitzed by the sony demon on that disc. i'm wondering if it was some combination of the sony disc and the anydvd software? could sony have put something on there to respond to something in anydvd? hmmm? since anydvd runs in the background it would be detected immediately by the disc... maybe even prior to the drive recognizing the disc? i doubt it, but i don't know anything about the tech end of stuff...

    i hope you get your system back to normal. i too had to do numerous reboots to get things working properly, and it wasn't until the next day that i got two of my computers to successfully backup "scissors" using both dvdfab and ripit4me. WHY it worked, when it hadn't worked previously, is still a mystery... it never did work on my newest dell computer, and i decided it wasn't worth it to mess with it any more.

    weird huh? i hope you get it all working shortly... hopefully your computer at some point will recognize the disc without problems and fab and/or ripit4me will do the job... please let us know if you figure out anything about why it was causing the kind of problems it did...
     

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