i just purchased a hdd for an old ps2 i borrowed from a friend. it was the ff11 bundle. i put the hdd in, with the network card. i didn't use the network start up disc, but i used a game with online ability's and the connection test was fine etc. so i think the net adapter is installed, but on the dash/browser on the ps2 no hdd or ff11. i put in the terta disc that came with ff11, and it says no hdd found. i don't know if i really need the start up disc ill get one on ebay i just didn't know if maybe there was a trouble shooting methond some one might know. thanks (p.s) i tried Google, but everything led to modding etc, id rather get the hdd working before i worry about game back ups. - thanks kev.