Ps3 and Xbox 360, a war to come..

Discussion in 'PS3 - Modding & Hacking' started by anubis66, Dec 12, 2005.

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  1. chimpanel

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    It ties with your friends p.c eh anubis. Hmmm sure. I have read some articles posted previously on here about ps3 and 360 power, one where a m$ spokesmen (biased i know) say's the consoles are both ferraries with 360 beating it slightly, then there was the article from hideo kojema (these japanese names so bloody hard to spell) who makes metal gear and has a DEV kit he say's both consoles are very close in power. Then there was a report about graphic cards (biased, ati, i know) which talks about 360 graphics card being more refined and another 360 vs ps3 comparison at which shows 360 to be slightly superior in some power aspects

    http://www.xboxtoday.ca/12292005/18/a_detailed_comparison_of_the_...

    (there is links for the others which hopefully youve read before in this and other threads, ask me if you want one). So gathering up this info, biased or not, say's that they are both powerfull, even with 360 taking the lead slightly, the best evidence is that from hideo who works for sony, why would he support 360 like that? So I am beggining to conclude with the mounting evidence that they are not so different in power and anubis if your erm.. friends pc matches the power of the 360 then your guna get a suprise when the ps3 comes out ;)
     
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  2. fazyninja

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    well said chimpanel

    P.S. oh and a happy new year to all, 2006 holds many thing instore for us gears of war halo 3 and oh ps3. looking forward to seeing where this forum thread will be.
     
  3. JuanTime

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    Anubis, you gotta loosen up your grip on Sony a little bit.

    That card alone will run you, what.. around half the price of a 360? Not to mention you need to pay for the whole computer to wrap around it. Don't tell someone who just wants to play their favorite games about blowing cash. You're talking about a computer that certainly costs more than $600 dollars that you didn't even pay for.

    PS3 'Wi-Fi' will not be "freeeeeeee!". It won't even be "freeee!". We'll pay in the base price of the system on the day we buy it.

    Why should someone have to pay for a function if they don't even want to use it? If it is sold as a periphial, the consumer has the choice to dictate how much a system eventually costs them. That's why I think the theory of the Core system was pretty-much a good idea and the $400 XB360 is a pretty good deal. Technology isn't free and the only ones who should have to pay for it are the ones who want to use it.

    I don't need wireless for my 360 and if Microsoft can save some money by not having to put one in every system and I can save some money by not having to pay for it I think we will both be content. And if I discover one day that I do want it, I still have the option to go out and get it.

    How could someone see this as a bad thing? By assuming your needs are the needs of everyone. Variety offers the potential to make more people happy. Your way only satisfies people who think like you. Why people feel the need to convince people out of their own heads is beyond me.

    If the PS3 comes out in the %400-$450 range with all the promised hardware, should I celebrate and take advantage of this incredible steal or should I bash the company like you choose to do w/ Microsoft?
    I already know what I will be doing when it is released.

    Could you please post a link for me where the [bold] final [/bold] specs and price of the PS3 are posted? I can't find it.
     
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    just a quick thought on the blueray disk. it seams like its goin to cost an arm and a leg, but the games coming out sofar dont look like they will need to be on one of them, anyone think the early games will be of non blue ray format? seams logical to me, would be like buying a jet to go across town.
     
  6. fazyninja

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    good question, i have know idea, best to ask kookoo.
     
  7. anubis66

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    they will. remember early ps2 games were on cd? plus the games are going to be $60, regardless of the bluray. i know this cuz preorder games are 60 right now, so retailers know something.
     
  8. fazyninja

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    anubis how much do normal games like xbox , ps2 and xbox 360 games cost, i ask b/c if they are $50 dollars than here in england for a game we pay $70 so for ps3 egnlish fanboys will have to pay out even more due to blu ray
     
  9. ChiefGosu

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    where'd you guyz see ps3 games on preorder?
     
  10. anubis66

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    to people going "omg disc cost" read this

    that was taken from http://blu-ray.com
     
  12. Mr_mayhem

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    Seriously all you guy should just get ur self a PC all the best games hit PC and if you spend the same amount of money that you would spend on a xbox or a ps3 you could by a sick graphics card kicking the ass of PS3 and Xbox, i can play call of duty 2 maxed out specs, and i dont even have the best graphics at the moment, god u guys, just settle down and get a fully upgradable pc that will last you a lifetime.
     
  13. fazyninja

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    i am getting a super pc but i also want an xbox 360 b/c i like the games more on consols although pc has some good games like rome, fear and civilisation.
     
  14. KoOkOo67

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    Sorry man, but not even a 7800 can play a game with the rsx or ati xenos (ps3 and xbox360)at 100%. And the ps3 costs less than the card. LOl, but yess, PC's will once again dominate with power. I just cant w8 till ge71 line comes.
     
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    [bold]anyone looking to buy a xbox 360 core or premium pack both with 5 games and conroller, both dixons and currys now have them in stock in the uk the core is £479.99 and premium £549.99!!![/bold]

    !!360 RULES!!
     
  16. JuanTime

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    It probably is the most well-rounded of the choices, but just getting a PC poses a problem for people who want to play, say....Guitar Hero, Timesplitters, or Devil May Cry. I know you said 'all the best games'. If your bag is only the 'best' FPS's, then yea, you should be covered without a doubt on the PC. That's where I choose to play my FPS's, but there are alot of other games I myself, along with other people enjoy that aren't available on PC.

    I've built my computers for over the last ten years and I used to chase the newest video card release every 6 months, bucket-fulls of RAM, more fans than a rockstar, etc...but none of that was cheaper than a console or could ever put Castlevania up on my monitor.


    That is talking about the production cost. That doesn't necessarily transfer into retail. I remember when DVD's came out, they were saying how much more affordable than VHS they would be, because of less parts to manufacture it. Better quality movies all on a simple disc. Plus, they could add all this extra footage, interactive menus, still photos, commentaries. All that flash and cheaper than a VHS movie. The price didn't go the way they proposed. That doesn't mean the same will happen with Blu-Ray, but I doubt Sony is investing and pushing their technology just so everyone can make the same kind of money with a new media format that they already are making with an old one. Like CD's cost more than cassettes did or a memory stick costs more/per than a Hard Drive.

    On the other side of the coin, I guess it is remotely possible they could just bring us all 5 times the media volume at the same price we're used to. PC games can span 5 discs and still cost the normal price. I guess it's possible. Being a disc format it's not too much of a stretch from the current trend, so yea, price to manufacture could be overcome fairly fast.

    Regardless, like all other significant advances, to pay more should be expected. Consumers justify a products price through their purchase. There is no reason to complain about that, unless it doesn't live up to it's promise.
     
  17. anubis66

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    you cant really do multiplayer on a pc without many expenvie pc's. plus for a pc with equil power to either system would be well over 1.5k. this is cost effective aqnd good for friends.
     
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    the ces approches.. i wonder if sony will impress or if they ill release nothing on the ps3. maybe its so good they will hype it later all at once in a big package. or it sucks so bad they dont wanna release anything untill ppl preorder so hey can make money. lets hope for the best as the day progresses.
     
  19. fazyninja

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    well for me personaly i think thats its hard for them to disapoint b/c even if they do not have killzone graphics they still graphics like the new fight night game which is also on xbox 360
     
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    with the ps3 coming out later, i believe it will be far more superior. they still gave us old stats, but with the release of the 360 so early, i think sony may be delaying because they want to revise the system to make it much better than the 360. before with old stats, it was going to be somewhat better, but they are taking there time to make it the best so as they can trample the 360 market.
     
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