PS3 blu-ray drive dead

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  1. RichDomi

    RichDomi Member

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    Yeah I hear ya. I found the specs for the chip and was thinking of getting that quick stencil from solder.net. It would have to be custome made but I would need to find at least 5 people who would like to cover the cost. And i guess with this way we get two stencils each and it should work on the first try.

    There is another option the ezreball which in the template already has the solder balls and just need to heat it up to flow the solder. that is 105 but you get a pack of 15 which comes out to 7 bucks a piece.

    .8mm Pitch
    ball size is between .3 to .4mm and .18mm thick
     
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  2. boneyard

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    ok, so i received my laser today, popped it in and bam (nothin)
    double checked all the cables , still nothing, disc spins a few times for about 4-5 seconds but then comes to a complete stop, i put a clear disc in to check for the blue light. when it first focus the blue light appeared but all other attempts after the first will emit red, (maybe because the clear disc) I tried swapping disc drives and putting the new laser in and still same results..any help..
     
  3. Shaddow08

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    does the new laser have a white clip on it if so chances are it is bad and you should return it to the sender and order one with the brown clip as they are new and the ones with the white clip are cheap china refurb's 4 out of every 10 are bad see thread http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/719199#4370037
     
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    I know about the white clips, this has a brown clip and i swapped it out with one of my working ps3's and it is indeed a bad laser.
    I bought it off ebay, seller statements "tested before ship" and now I have to pay return fees and another waiting delay, what a rip off.
     
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    Sorry to hear that they probably sold you used junk they should not make you pay return shipping next time you should buy anything ps3 from my suppler he has never ripped me off he is out of CA and can get you any ps3 parts http://myworld.ebay.com/fuzionelectronics just email him :)
     
  6. RichDomi

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    since your disk spins and the light turns on it could be your IC chip that is causing the problem.
     
  7. Shaddow08

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    The IC is what spins the disk and moves the worm gear. If it were bad nether would move or work at all. IC chips dont go bad half working... They go bad not working at all no movement at all!! I.E. disk spins IC GOOD disk or worm gear not moving bad laser or the IC is bad!!
     
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    It is indeed the laser, I swapped it out with a working laser at it works.
     
  9. oxbullsey

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    Glad to hear it (well, sort of glad, at least it's not something worse) boneyard. It's pretty amazing how pitiful the good % is on these items, I understand the whole 'newer tech' and all, but c'mon, out of the box failures are unacceptable.
     
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    I agree, The ebayer says , O "lasers are very fragile", as if I was goign to install one and didn't know this , by the way it could be a honest error on his part but to make everyone aware he is on ebay ..sjsharks903so keep that in mind if you dont want to pay return shipping cost...
     
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    Well, my first two attempts were failures. I'm pretty pissed off so I'm probably going to give up. I removed the BGA, cleaned it, soldered it, put it onto another board (from an A4 to and A1) and now I get nothing, no blue light, no disk motions at all, it's like it doesn't exist.

    I've spent the better half of the last year trying to get this fusking thing going, I'm very happy for all of the help I've received here but I am probably done with the PS3 forever.
     
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    Hey. I have a launch 60gb and I think the drive is going dead. About a month ago it started taking about 3 inserts b4 the disc would read. Now it takes 20-50(i watch a movie). When it finally reads it works fine, no problems. Does anyone know what the problem could be?
     
  13. RichDomi

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    Well I am on the same boat I tried today but no success I am not sure if I overheated the chip I put it back with the original board and now it won't even take in the disk or play demo. I tried it so many times and still no go, so I guess it this the end for it. But i can't complain I only paid 75 bucks for it and got an extra good working bluray drive and extra axxis controller as well.
     
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    Yeah, I'm pretty bummed out. I had so much hope after Federico was successful, I might give it another go, I'm hoping that I just didn't get enough solder on the IC. I've tried three times, though. I'm going to try to find a different kind of solder paste, the one I had is primarily for tinning copper pipes and hobby projects....
     
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    I also have a similar problem. I took apart the PS3 and the drive unit. When I load any disc the red laser tries to read but then goes off after about 2 seconds and disc does not spin. From the above situation it seems that the laser unit may be the problem and not the entire mechanical system.

    I thought of replacing the entire drive but cud not find any sites selling those. Any help appreciated. Most sites just have the laser drive. Looks like that may be the main cause. If the laser does not sense then the disc may not turn at all.

    Any thoughts?
    Thanks
    Toger
     
  16. federicob

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    i give you two tips: 1-after place the reballed chip in position apply a tiny layer of flux on the controller board 2-double check the allignment, this is the most inportant step on the prosses if you not allign it perfect it wont work

    i hope this tips coul help you, and also double check the reballed chip, to see if it get enough solder it must looks just exsactly as you see in mi video (you need a magnefying glass to check it right), federico
     
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  17. oxbullsey

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    I've calmed down a bit (I tried it over Saturday and Sunday), I'll probably try it again. I tried it with an iron and thin silver infused solder, and with the solder paste and I wasn't happy with the amount of solder I was able to get onto the contacts. I even tried putting solder on the controller board as well as the chip, still nada. Hopefully I'll get the right stuff and give it another go...we'll see.
     
  18. RichDomi

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    yeah I did the same thing putting solder on the board and chip as well as applying a tiny amount on the solder before putting it on. does anyone know how much heat these chip can take doing it so many time I fear that I burnt it out.
     
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    i use mi heat gun regulated for 300 C, and i did the rework 3 times in one controller (the one that makes mi ps3 works again) and 6 times in another contoller (the one i use for practice) and the chip works after all this reworks. But on my experience puting solder in bouth, the conttroller and the chip it doesnt work for mi (yes, i try it), for two reasons: 1-the tiny spots of solder on the chip and the controller have "semicircular form", so its very dificult to allign the chip right (becouse there are two semicircles face to face), and as a say before allign is very inportant 2- you are making some presure to get the chip in position and ones the solder melts (if you put it in bouth the chip and the controller could be to much) and make bridges between points, i hope this helps, federico

    PS: the use of flux is VERY inportant too, you must use it for the reball and also apply a tiny leyer on the controller before placing the chip for resolder
     
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    I have read this entire thread, very useful information.

    I am uncertain at the moment where to proceed with my 40 GB.

    When a Blue Ray is inserted, the blue light comes on and the disc spins, the bubble appears in the right corner. After a few seconds the disc stops spinning. When a dvd is inserted the laser emits blue light then red light and the disk spins after a few seconds the disc stops.

    My question is, since the disc spins and the laser emits light is the laser bad or is it the controller board?

    Any help is appreciated.
     

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