PS3 blu-ray drive dead

so, if you buy a sisterboard with the same revision number but NOT the same updated firmware, it will not be recognize ?
BUT don't it tell you to update your ps3 ? or because your motherboard is already updated, but not the sisterboard, the system will be faulty ?

BTW: has anyone tried to wait 'til the next firmware version to re-updated his system and see if it solved the problem ?

 

It probably will encounter some kind of error (likely fatal, perhaps preventing it from successfully POSTing), but even if you find one that is of the same revision and has the same firmware, it will not work because it is not paired with the motherboard.

As for your BTW, no, waiting for a newer update hasn't fixed anyone's PS3.

 

@ Cabanon

The drive will not be recognized because of the pairing built in to the motherboard and the sisterboard. If they do not match, the drive will not be recognized, and you will not be able to play any downloaded demos. This is the built in security that Sony has implemented by splitting and paring the system like this.

As far as the system prompting you to update, yes, this is true. But what if the system you take the sisterboard from was never connected to the internet, and has the original software installed on it? You will be installing a card with a different software update and this could cause POST issues for the following reason. I stated in my previous post that the softare versions would probably have to match because the software update may actually update the firmware as well. I cannot confirm this statement, nor can I contradict it, because we do not yet understand the PS3 operation entirely. With this information in mind, with different firmware in different parts of the system, the system may not be able to POST. Besides that, since the sisterboard is somehow paired to the motherboard, it still may not function even with the exact same hardware revision and the exact same software/firmware version because we do not know how or where the pairing information is stored on the sisterboard.

To answer your question about waiting for the next update... The fact that I was able to regain blu-ray function with my same sisterboard that was updated to the most recent software upgrade should completley rule out the possibility of the software upgrade being the source of the blu-ray malfunction. If the upgrade is not the cause of the failure, then an update to the software probably wouldn't be a remedy. The only possibility is a hardware failure and a terrible coincidence of timing.

 

its one hell of a coincidence because over at psu.com, 4-5 people claimed the same problems.
and thats the one who told it. alot of user dont post on forum, blog, or whatever. it might be alot bigger than we think,
if im right, its not the first time i heard this kind of problems related to firmware update. i think 2.40 was a fatal one too for couple of peoples.

anyway, i'll contact Sony once i get some money and ship it to them, will be easier and safer this way IMO.

 

I hope you didn't buy a laser yet... This sounds more like a hard drive issue than a blu ray issue. A hard drive that needs to be reformatted will cause periodic freezing while in game and loading. Good news, it will save you money. Bad news: you have to back up all your crap

 

The only way I have found to get a sister board to work with a different motherboard is using solder and replacing the actual chip that holds the firmware on the blu ray board.

As far as I have been able to tell, updating a sisterboard in a different machine doesn't do ANYTHING at all. It can still be put back into the original machine even if the firmware is different etc. and still cannot be used with a different machine. Again, this is as far as I have seen.

Soldering really appears to be the only answer at this point, but I will keep you updated as I figure out more. I am constantly working with about 10-20 different ps3s so I have some play.

 

One final note before bed,

Lasers:

For those of you that bought a new laser and it didn't fix your problem, you likely got a bad laser! It has taken me months and much $ to find a supplier that I can count on for more than either a DOA laser, or a laser that doesn't burn out in 5 minutes. All lasers come from Hong Kong or China. Ebay or not we all get them from Asia.

No matter what anyone says, NONE of these lasers are new original lasers. ANYONE that sells you a laser that isn't working will blame you for the problem! There really isn't a safe way to buy a laser which really has caused me much frusteration. In any case, Top Sheung sells a wonderful laser, but you have to buy mass quantities or they won't sell.

 

what is that quantites ? is it 20-50-100 ?

maybe a group buy could interest people here.

 

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what is that quantites ? is it 20-50-100 ?

maybe a group buy could interest people here.[/quote]

This company only requires 10, and you can probably also get a sample order of 3, once. If you can't get enough people together, let me know, I usually keep a pretty sizeable stock of them as well for repairs and refurbs, and should be hanging around the forum quite abit to try clear up some misconceptions.

 

Astiri,,i have the same problem,,i to have the KEM-410CCA,,and cant find it anywere,,all there is the KES-410ACA,,and i to am wondering if it is compatible with my drive,,did you have any luck,,BTW i have a 80gig ps3,,you said you have a 40gig,,because the KES-410ACA is compatible with the 40gig,,so i have read,,

 

I found this thread interesting enough to sign up
but im now worried about what ive read since ive just ordered a new kem400aaa.£65 uk
i too have the disc not even spinning problem.
i will let you all know how it goes and how long it lasts.
thanks for the info yawl.
sure ive seen 410s on ebay.
if all else fails we can ditch the drive.install linux and use it as a crude pc.
and yes fusk YOU SONY.

 

just an idea like this. would there be anyway to swap the BR drive unit with a Sony BR Drive or burner ? or unless someone crack the sisterboard, there would be no way of this. i mean, all that we need is a blu-ray drive unit to read the games & movies. sure there's the compatibility about it. all-in-all its a just lens anyway... maybe Sony take their lens from other Blu-Ray drive that they already marketed in the past or future...

 

Sorry, been away for a few.

There are only 2 types of lasers. If you post your model number, I will tell you the type you need to buy. KEM is the whole assembly, KES is just the laser. To those of you that say you have KEM 410, get the KES410ACA.

As for switching out blue ray lasers and such. Highly unlikely as the cords will probably have a different setup as well. Likely a different laser as you said, and of course the sister board problem which no one seems to be able to crack without just replacing the NANd chip altogether.

 

on reading more about this i have found that many peoples problems started while playing online and coincidently on machines which are out of warrranty.
does playing online put extra stress on the br unit?
even worse could sony be using our connection to psn to cause these problems and extort money from us?
damn i miss cartridge games. most old nintendos and segas still work 20 years on.
isnt technology supposed to be getting better?

 

divieno doesnt have the drives suprisingly.

 

Nah, to be honest, these lasers ALL only have a shelf life of about a year. It's only partially Sony's fault. In buying new lasers, EVERYONE is incompetant at making a br laser. Most KES 400 burn out in about 7-8 minutes. I've found 1 manufacturer that makes a descent laser, and the kill rate seems to be nil at the moment, but I'm sure they won't make it any longer than sony just because of the nature of the laser mixed with the usage and the heat from the system (which does increase during online play because the system is working harder, but still, just a coincidence.)

To Sony's credit, they did release the 410ACA which is worlds better. They still will fail eventually, but it is much more rare, and they appear much easier to find a descent replacement to.

 

I got one from http://www.gaingame.com/ for cheaper than ebay

 

I have purchased from gaingame before through EBay. Two lasers I believe back when I was first getting started. Their product wasn't bad, but the thing that scares me about them is that they are also a part of y'allstore, which has sold me bad lasers twice.

I buy straight from a manufacturer now. It cost me quite a bit of money to figure out which manufacturer would send me lasers that would work longer than a day, and when you get a laser from a manufacturer that doesn't work, they treat you like an idiot and say that it is your fault.

 

How long did your ones from gaingame work, I called them to varify my order and they sounded like hxc chinamen. I think they just got a bunch of shit and setup shop on a move to NY

 

That is exactly what they did lol. All of my lasers and anyone elses lasers come from China.

As for the length of operation, I don't know yet. I haven't gotten a complaint about them yet and it has been 2 months or so since I have used those ones in a machine. USUALLY if they make it the first 20 hours of off and on play they are going to be good for awhile. I say usually because I did have one die at like hour 21, but I don't test them all THAT thoroughly. Usually about a couple boots and a couple hours is all you need to know before you shut the case on it.