PS3 finally hacked?

Totally agree with what you say...

 

@wooly
when we had floppy's or tapes , there were no torrents/ rapidshare or internet, where they?

i have the same amount of games more or less and i couldent agree with you more that most games if not 99% will only last for a day or two (recent example GOW3)... and imo thats the main reason that they added trophies/achievements.

How i see it and correct me if i am wrong, sony have spend 5 years (we hope) and invested 60milion dollars to GT5 (from what we know), there are 35million ps3's out there (in theory)... they will have to get back $1,7x dollars per console.
For sure they have sponsors like every GT series had, but if the PS3JB works GT5 will go to guiness book as the most pirated game ever.
Why companies like ubisoft rush games out? AC1 and AC2 looks almost identical and AC3 is just around the corner.
They dont bother to improve the games, or invest money and time, they use the same graphics, interface etc etc, cause they know that the sales window is very narrow, they care to release more titles more often and if it lucks to be sequels is even better.

Sorry mate but i dont believe in that.... Show me a hack/crack/ jailbreak that has been used for that reason and didnt helped piracy to grow and i will eat my shoes.

and about DRM/ on-line pass or that system with the used games that THQ (<<i think) was thinking about, what do you suggest made the companies make that systems? They just want to protect their product.

Games arent like movies that take sponsorships, income from cinema tickes, dvd's sales, BD sales, TV channels..... they have to sell discs........
When you see games like god of war 3 not going so well in sales even though that the PS3 wasnt unlocked yet , you can imagine the sales figures if it was.

 

I didn't say piracy wasn't apart of it, it is inevitable that when homebrew is enabled on a device, piracy will come, you have to realize that for every pirate out there, there are so many more that want MKV support on their PS3, Emulators from the XMB, etc, this is what the PS Jailbreak device will enable.

PS Jailbreak game dumps are already online, take away the backup manager PKG and PS Jailbreak is an awesome device.

I think by the time GT5 is released, Sony will have implemented some sort of check on the disc also don't forget, not all games will work with PS Jailbreak.

 

WEll when it comes to Ubisoft I will be more than happy to pirate their games. Being just a big publisher I could not believe they released Star Trek LEgacy on the PC whilst still in its alpha stages! the coding included a photo of one of the devs with his 2 pet goats and comments saying where things needed changing!
Then there was Lost, again on teh PC, so full of bugs they refused to relaese a patch.

So imo Sony and Ubisoft deserve what they get.

 

I actually doubt that. They still haven't managed to do so with the PSP. The only thing Sony has managed to do is to release firmware updates ridiculously fast that sometimes were hacked before the release was official. I assume the PS3 is going the same way.

 

Jailbreak is and will always be for stealing games. Just google “PS3 Jailbreak MKV”, then google “PS3 Jailbreak XMB Emulators”, then google “PS3 Jailbreak Piracy or game backup”. It is obvious what people want it for.

 

PS3 =/= PSP

Maybe you are thinking along those lines, but i want to use it for homebrew, i have a 360, it is not hacked and will never be hacked, im not interested in pirate games.

 

studies show that most pirates buy 10x more than they steal.

So instead of making games better/longer/have more content, they added trophies/achievements to justify a 60$ price tag..?

look at the rock band series, guitar hero, and even the assassin's creed series. Assassin's creed 2 sold 1.6 million copies in it's first week even though the game was leaked online. Starcraft 2 is the most pirated game of this year, yet they made 350$ million around launch and are still selling strong. Piracy has been known to reach games out to more people and in the long run cause more sales. Show me something that proves that person A was going to buy said game that he downloaded, who knows if he was even able to run it, and show me proof where that same person didn't go out and buy the game after he tried it out. As far as your ludacris claim as GT5 going into Guiness, are you nuts? do you know how many fans of GT5 are out there? do you think they're all hardcore gamers/hackers? most of them are car enthusiasts and casual players actually, these would be pirates of that game would still have to get an outside source (the dongle) AND then get the game backed up onto their ps3's hdd by some means, and they wouldn't really be able to play online since sony can detect, the game will sell like every other good game will.

lolwut? show me a hack/crack/jailbreak that has caused the decline in sales for any product, show me concrete evidence and not just hearsay and theories. it's not like jailbreaking is used by the majority anyway.. the avg. joe doesn't have the time to sit there and figure out how to run homebrew because he doesn't care, avg. joe has a job and it's much easier for him to pay than go through all that hassle.

No they don't, they want to make more money, they want to tell us (the consumer, the people who pay their salary mind you..) what we can do with what WE purchase, with what WE own, when i buy a used car i don't have to pay a 10$ for a "street pass" to drive the car on the street do i?

Uh what? Game/media piracy has been around before xbox360/ps3 and gasp games are still made and sell well, dont forget about games that shamelessly stick ADS for products and other movies/games inside the game you just paid 60$ for.. it's actually because of people with your silly mentality, that the pirates killed christ, and pirating a game is like stealing medicine from an old woman, that the industries are not the thieves, yet they are the people releasing 30$ games with 60$ price tags, media you cannot return, media you cannot try before you buy. If you don't like it tough, if it's not worth what you paid for, tough. If it has bugs that make it unplayable, tough. What about games that come out missing features where you have to PAY to unlock content already on the disc? (capcom) or devs that lie in numerous interviews and videos (lionhead).

piracy isn't new it's been around since the printing press, cry me a river that a dev isn't driving a lamborghini because of.... owait hai cliffyb

 

Well I for once think games should take sponsorships to help reduce the cost of games, and as such reduce piracy and increase sales.

I've said it before, imagine if Rockstar got McDonalds, Burger King, KFC etc to bid to be the main takeaway in GTA4 instead of making up and designing Burger Shot.
Or have Gap, Addidas, Nike etc bid to be the clothing stores.
GTA4 also had a few TV channels, companies couls add adverts there.
Then there are also the billboards throughout the city for more ads.

So really there are plenty of avenues for sponsorships, but if the developers refuse they only increase the cost of the games' development, increasing the cost of the discs, and therefore increase the chance of ppl pirating the game.

Also for games like GTA4 which has an online component you can have the ads renewed increasing revenue. If one compnay backs down a new one may be happy to pay for a while.

 

I think glassd hit it spot on. Sure, the homebrew is nice and gives those little conveniences that we all enjoy, but it's sole purpose is avoiding $59.99 price tags for VERY temporary warm fuzzy feelings. They give a date for this and I'm on board. And for those of you near a Fry's Electronics, they love putting those 25-pack Verbatim BD-R's for $49.99! Maybe they saw this thread!!

 

PS Jailbreak has been reversed engineered
http://www.ps3hax.net/showthread.php?t=12679

 

That would have totally ruined the game. Ok, maybe not the clothes brands, but definitely having McD, Burgerking or KFC in there instead of their parody Burger Shot, showing what low quality fast food is. And did you even care to watch those tv channels or listen to the ads they added to the radio stations? They were parodising society with the game, with over the edge radio ads advertising for stuff that was almost possible but totally sick (for example the overnight baby shop). Having real ads there would have made the game just another standard sandbox shooter.

 

Sweet, I was right when I thought it was an Atmega chip

This should be easy to replicate then. I wonder if I have to use the model mentioned though, or if I could use any Atmega chip. Time to get my soldering iron out on my parallel port

 

Anyone who has ordered this fro Australia is out of luck, the courts have ordered them not to sell or distribute http://www.ps3hax.net/showthread.php?t=12688

 

SO they dont sell from australia, there are plenty of other countries where the US copyright kerfuffle has no leverage, these companies can set up shop there.

 

The good news is that it seems to be based on a very common chip. In fact, it seems that the Arduino should be capable of running the software if we can just get a dump of it (clearly, it is not hard to get a dump; I have already seen two different clones). Once we get a dump, I think that Arduino boards are going to be sold-out in australia for a long time.

 

Sure there was. Floppies dont pre-date the internet, but back then it was FTPs, BBSs, newsgroups and IRC instead of torrents. Sure it was slower but if you knew where to look (just like now) it was just as easy. And they said floppies would ruin the software market. There was probably a much larger percentage of computer users pirating than there is now...

 

No. What I'm saying is that I don't play my PS3 that often. Mostly 360, secondly Wii, thirdly PS3 (actually for exclusives only). I like the Sony machine better but I like Live over PSN which is why my online time goes to the 360. So once the Sony can be modded, there is a reason to spend more time with it.

 

amen

 

@w00ly
Yeah right, when we had 5,25'' floppy's you had high speed internet and you were downloading several games/movies every day i am pretty sure.
Or later when he had dial-up connections we could easily download 3-4 games in a few hours....
Flash games thought, but nevertheless games!

Thats hilarious, were is this studies? show me some facts.
So, what you are saying is that all industries(music, game, movie etc) have bad sources? they dont know the facts? or they prefer to spend millions in anti-piracy measures to loose even more money?

You find this weird? or what? It looks like an easy business plan to me.
Find me another reason why they added trophies? trophies/achievements are 100% useless, their only purpose is to make a game "look" longer.

About AC2 up to january, ubisoft reported 6million.... well thats not such a great number is it? considering that only the consoles out there (PS3+360) are about 70mills..... i'll let you think how many PC gamers are out there.
About GT funs......you must be kidding me.... last time i checked GT5Prologue have sold 4millions... now with 30+million PS3's out there you think that the full version will not be the best selling game of PS3? if not the most pirated game on PS3.

You want concrete evidence..... have a look around the net and tell me that all this people in forums, news, warez forum, tracker sites that make posts/ talk about copied games arent the average user of a console..... but of course anyone that has a console doesnt know what internet is, sorry i forgot that.
The hack may sale consoles but wont sale software.
If you believe that 360 would have shipped all this consoles without the hack you should really reconsider some things.
Hassle? what hassle? they even sell pre-modded 360's/ps2's/ wii's what hassle?

Let me make this clear, long time ago that you had to wait 3 hours to download a *.txt and it was impossible to download a movie or a game and internet was something that wasn't in every house, Companies didn't need to take measures like drm cause only a few if not non could download or spread something all over the net.... now that the speeds are high and even my grandmother can download via torrent and every day more and more users gets online, companies will find new ways to lock down their software, movies, music etc etc. You find this odd or what?
-The used games system, is absolutely ridiculous and unacceptable, no doubt about that.

You got me wrong i think, i am not supporting either companies either pirates, the best anti-piracy measure IMO is to lower the prices , as long as they stick to the high prices all industries will suffer from piracy.
But truth to be said, drm, on-line pass and all that crap, piracy made them exist and no matter how you look at it piracy makes companies loose money.
I agree that the 70euros price tag for a game is ridiculous, especially with the fact that if you wait 4 months it will drop at 30euros, but no one is forcing you to buy or not their product.

Yeah so? and your problem is? It was yours and he stoled from you or what?
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One question to people that knows more things about JB than me that i just read the news here and there...
I read some posts that say "Sony wont be able to lock it with a FW update". I believe that anyone has crossed a post like that.
From the other side the dev's of JB said that JB works only with 3.41fw and also said, Do Not Update in case that sony releases a new FW.

I/we are missing something here?