What makes it so difficult to mod? I figured years later people would be able to mod ps3s and play back ups by now.
Ridiculous security measures is about all I can remember, being the non-techie that I am. Something about hypervisors and SPUs and things being separate from other things and gaining access to one thing still doesn't get you access to another thing... which pretty much boils down to "They put some serious thought into it." But I dunno; ask someone over at HaxNetwork.net or something. Besides, modding it just to play "backups" is a serious waste of its potential. I mean, there are so many greater things that you could do with a hacked PS3 than getting it to play pirated games. Full media support through XMB, for one. Linux support and optimization, for another. Heck, maybe even gain the ability to create games (by designing them on the Linux side and testing them on the PS3 side). You could possibly supersede the entire PSN Store with a user-generated Store just like how jailbroken iPhones have third-party app stores. (A really far-fetched idea, but hey, so long as I'm dreaming.)
"What makes it so difficult to mod?" Sony does...they failed to protect the PS1, then they failed to protect the PS2...they learned their lesson and locked the PS3 down hard. Ultimately, the biggest problem with hacking the PS3 is the fact that new games need newer system software, and online games need the PSN. This means you need updates...and if there was ever a hack released, Sony would just block the hack with another update. If it was just a matter of playing copied games, then we would already have a hardware mod...but generally the modding community starts with legal stuff like restoring linux support or something...and so far, no one has been able to that. Yes, you heard me right...it is possible to mod the PS3, all you would have to do is to create a circuit that replaces the bluray drive, and is identical to the bluray drive in every way as far as the PS3 is concerned. The thing that would make it a hack would be the fact that it would not be a bluray drive, but a circuit to make an modified ISO file appear to be an actual disk in a drive. Needless to say, such a board would probably be rather expensive, and it would be highly illegal too...plus there are the side issues, such as the fact that you would need your PC to do any of this...and you would need software just for this...and you might even need to use the PS3 bluray drive with a PC adapter circuit in order to rip the disks.
Well he never came over to ask Anyhow you are correct in everything you say. The hypervisor has may level and so far only level one has really been breached and we seen Sony's response to that. GeoHot was the one that got the closest, but he left as the pressure was too much for him. Hate to say your wrong, but your wrong, Linux has only been gone for a few months, you don't think the reverse engineers were working on restoring it before it was taken do you , there are ones out there that have tried to get back ups running. The other guys thyat are working on it, do it to enable homebrew or to get a better knowledge of the workings of the PS3. The hypervisor protects EVERYTHING, so getting it to play copied games, is just as difficult as getting homebrew running where did you get that from, if it was that easy, then loads of people would be doing it. The only way to play back ups on a PS3 is on a dev console.
Easy? Wow...you must be an incredible tech. Considering the fact that a circuit like this would be about the size of an ATX mainboard, and that you would have to solder it all yourself, with surface-mount parts, I would hardly consider it to be easy. It may be easy to describe the general idea...but to make the system think that it has a real drive connected with a real disk in it is no easy task...it is like saying, "We are going to the edge of the galaxy"...any 5-year-old can say it, but no one can do it. Oh, and generally, those who are skilled enough and smart enough to hack a platform are also smart enough to do it in a way that they can take credit without getting arrested. If someone released a hack that allowed the use of MKV files from within GameOS, that would open the door to a flood of piracy-related advancements...but so far, no one has even been able to do a simple, legal hack.
Come on when the PS1 first came out I remember when the cheat cartridges were released to play copied cds sony removed the slot. After that you needed to solder in a chip. just took mine to the guy who sold the chips who would solder them in for you. So if the only way to hack the ps3 was to solder something in, those who know what they are doing will offer their services for a reasonable price, or at least you hope it is reasonable
I think your dreaming >.< There are plenty of people out there smart enough, there is also loads of hurdles they must jump over, there are plenty of use able hacks, but they can be easily patched by Sony. lol if its so simple, whats keeping you from doing it ?
marcusita, I don't get what's with the mightier-than-thou here. KillerBug's not saying it's simple at all. He's not saying that there aren't hurdles to jump over. Your first quote ignores the fact that he acknowledges that such a circuit board would be ridiculously hard to create. That he's "dreaming" is just stating the obvious. He said so himself. Your second quote ignores what he said entirely. He said that, in general, people who are skilled and smart enough to hack a platform will do so in a way that allows them to be accredited without being in danger of getting arrested. There's nothing there about what hurdles they have to jump over or what hacks can and can't be patched by Sony. And your third quote assumes that he thinks hacking it is simple when he has already said... quite a few times... that it's not. If anything, he's acknowledging the difficulty of performing a supposedly simple hack.
i take insult to that, im not acting nor trying to act mightier-than-thou, i am simply stating my opinion, i didn't realize you had control of that I haven't ignored anything he has said, i just think you have misread what he has said KillerBug said That means that yes it is possible to do it, not that he dreams it is possible, if it was in anyway possible, someone would have done it already. I have a lot of respect for KillerBug, he for the most part knows what he is talking about and is well able to voice his opinions himself, without the need of someone defending his honor.
I'm not defending his honor; I just thought it was a bit, like I said, mightier-than-thou of you to inject meanings into words that aren't there. The fact that I'm "defending his honor," so to speak, is coincidental. As for it being possible, I would think that you, a well-knowledged hacker/moderator/whatever it is you are (someone who knows about this stuff, at any rate) would acknowledge that it's possible to hack and mod the PS3, regardless of how exorbitant the methods might have to be. What he's dreaming is the method, not the possibility. Unless the motto of the hacking community has changed recently from "Everything can be hacked."
I didn't say the idea wasn't good, all i said, was that it wasn't possible at the moment, which it isn't and if by any chance i am wrong, i will hold up my hands and say so. If i seem mightier-than-thou, then im sorry, i don't mean to appear that way
Well, technically, if you had, say, the fortunes of Donald Trump, I'm sure you would be able to do it, even right now. I think the cost-benefit ratio is the one thing that's keeping it from being possible to the masses, but its possibility - ie it can theoretically be cracked and stuff - is not in question. ...if that makes any sense. Also, no worries and no need to apologize. (Online apologies always make me feel all heartless and ashamed inside. )
Do you even have a bluray burner or want to pay for a bluray discs? It's like 20 dollars for one 50GB disc. Have fun with your 20 dollar coaster if the burn process messes up.
LOL...the (purely theoretical) hack I mentioned would eliminate the drive completely; you wouldn't even be able to use a disk if you wanted to. Yes, I am dreaming...but that is what moves the world forward. What if no one had ever dreamed of transistors? Is it possible to vacation on mars? No. Do we have the technology to send men to mars if we made it a priority? Yes. [edit] BTW...if modchips were legal, then I think that we would already have a PS3 modchip...the problem comes in selling it; if you can't make a lot of money selling it, then it is hard to justify the huge expense of designing and producing it.
I don't know what happens to US but if mod chips are illegal there it may be the only place on this planet that this law apply. I am from europe and never even heard for a law like that. They even sell legally modified consoles here. That you'll loose your warranty or that they take no responsibility if it kills your dog is perfectly accepted, but illegal to develop/ sell mod chips?? That sounds odd if not funny...
Just because something is possible doesn't mean that anyone would have done it yet. Most technological advancements and new breakthroughs are thought as either impossibilities or near possibilities in the beginning. We just have to wait a little longer until the "code" whatever it maybe is cracked. I know, someone will say that nothing is impossible, and I agree. We must put our minds to work to achieve that which people see as "impossible"
Oh my god! I totally forgot about those things! Nice little trip down memory lane there. Made me think of the Doctor 64 as well!
