PS3 Price announced

Microsoft are not averse to ripping off the consumer either.

Hmmm - Now whats the name of that expensive bug ridden piece of software thats updated every couple of years just to cash in on consumers need for something new?

I'm sure it will come to me.

 

for that artcile a few pages back that said ps3 wasnt hard to develop for u sony fans are really just reaching and it looks oh so bad. you take an article of one gaming developer saying its not hard to develop for over the actual cell designer who says it is.thats just ignorant,contradicting what the company is saying itself and listening to a random developer. Carmack(doom/quake) also said it wasa pain in his a$$ to develop for btu yet i wonder why we dont c that artcile up there. its on gamepro.com if you want to look at it im not going to waste the time to post it so u can come up with a irrational comeback about how ur right and the cell desinger meant something other than he said.thats like Peter moor,bill gates, and the guy who put together hardware for the 360 saying it's really hard to develop for and me coming out and saying no it isnt..typical sony fan trash

 

Ouch - Is that aimed at me.

 

@connolly

although you are a sony fan so generally i guess that would involve you i was referring to Gamelover about the artcile he slapped up there about ps3 being easy to develop for.No quams herer with ya connolly

 

Carry on reading my posts and you'll see that I did that for a reason. The "I don't think so" was referring to the developer in the article. The point being that there are a number of varying opinions and everyone is entitled to believe whatever they want to. The proof will be in the pudding, we'll see.

I ain't no Sony Fanboy, I fuckin' hate the company, their shitty attitude to customers, their rootkit stunt, their greed. Do you want me to go on?

My point was made by the further discussion it generated, I can quote shit all day long from the internet but it doesn't mean it's true does it? Companies can say all sorts of statements on the net and twist words and figures to make their machine sound better.

I think you misunderstood me.

True, I prefer the PS1 & PS2 to the other consoles of those generations and will more than likely buy a PS3 despite Sony being the badge on the front of it. However I think each to their own. I do own an X-Box as well and enjoyed a number of the titles available for it but it didn't give me the gaming experience of the PS2 and I don't get along well with the X-box controllers. Just my preference.

If the PS3 turns out to be rubbish and riddled with problems, dropped by developers and ridiculously over-priced and over hyped then I won't buy one.

Some of their ideas for protecting their investment are crazy, like the coding of the original discs so they only play in your machine and this bringing about the end of the used game market for example.

I am not interested in a pissing contest, just giving my honest opinions.

 

@ cmk0121

I'll remember my sony loving tendencies next time I get a disc read error on my PS2

I just want the best machine fullstop. No bullsh*t. No hype. Sometimes the best way to get to that decision is to thrash it out in a forum just like this - I dunno.

 

I dont understand why people get Mad because they wont release the price it dont matter its not like the system is about to come out today or next week.Either people can afford it or not.Thats going to be the buyer choice to say yes or no.i rather wait knowing that a company not rushing a system on the market just to beat PS3 to the punch.If PS3 come out next year its still going to out sell Trash-Box....360=a shell you guys got punked no HD-DVD drive & HDMI hookups...LOL dont worry MS will sale that to you later on down the road.

 

playstation magazine said that the price will likely be $399 in the u.s and if thats so has will go bankrupt and or they are just flat out ignorant. to sell a system that costs about $800-$900 to produce for $400 is just plain suicide. microsoft was losing $100 per system and they are doing fine because they are selling 4.5 games per console so their making their money back and them some by a little bit.check out the article at teamxbox.com or i guess look at it in playstation magazine...

 

@ cmk0121 your talking like Sony not going to sell alot of Games...LOL more than X-Box.

 

Again though, are these figures REALLY the truth? Does it really cost that much to make?

I know that they intend to make more money from the games and add on peripherals and also the licensing out.

You are right though if they go too low to the point that they truly are losing money on every sale, then they are crazy. I don't believe they are losing anything. On the other hand there is a saying 'speculate to accumulate' which comes to mind. If they can get their machine into lets say 1:2 households and sell them games, movies, add-ons, gamepads, cables, blank media, Burners, HDTV and all the stuff to go with the console for the next 10 years plus, they know they are onto a winner for sure. That goes for $ony and Micro$oft. There are many companies pockets that will be filled from sales of these consoles not just the companies who invented them and they are all in it together.

 

Ms had to sell 4games per console to make their money back and they were only losing 100bucks per system sold.that means playstaion3 would have to sell about oh 12-16games roughly to just make their money back...not likely damon but sounded goods...probably even gives you hope. although i wouldnt take much to the article...doenst make sense that a magazine for the company would say the price but not have it confirmed or anything E3,so sony goes on misleading and should be pissing off tehir customers who are loyal them to as man is wife

 

"For those who care about backward compatibility, PSM also revealed that PSO and PS2 games will run on the PlayStation 3 in 720, 1080i and 1080p."

If the above statement is true from the teamxbox site then the games will definitely be 1080P as well as the movie side of it and PS1/PS2 games too. I noticed a post earlier in the thread trying to claim the PS3 would not run games at 1080P. So maybe this clears things up a little in that respect.

As for pricing, 360 owners still have to take a hit to get the HD-DVD add on yet (and I get the feeling it ain't going to be cheap). So really M$ would have to sell a lot more games than 4 to make up their losses IF they had included HD-DVD in the design in the first place. PS3 buyers will have the blue-ray already inside the box and from the article it also said it will include a 60GB HDD. I can from this see why they would have to sell more games to make up any losses on the console side.

 

goes to show u cant trust sony,It's impossible to sell them that cheap and make any profit. if its not confirmed at E3 then that shows the merit of that article. either way sony's done..sell it that cheap they'll lose way too much money to compete...sell it too expensive nobody will buy it. as for the 1080p thing only like 2 hdtvs support 1080p and none of them are sony so nice marketing job. so get ready to shell out even more moeny than 360 owners who purchased an hdtv for the system because 1080p supported tv's our sure to break the bank. if you dont go for the 1080p tv then ur not maximizing your investment and u might as well went 360 cause graphics will be the better and hd-dvd player cause they are cheaper than blu-ray players and their movies will be cheaper.i also find it hard to believe the old games will run in 1080p when ps1 was a cd format and ps2 was a dvd format...just not likely that the technology went being unfinished to godjuice a fast amount of time. its a good assumption the reason ps3 was delayed was not for the gaming purposes but to finish up blu-ray tech and copyright nonsense.

 

further reading if anyone hasn't seen these links
http://home.btconnect.com/hgi/ps3/

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060413-6600.html
http://games.kikizo.com/news/200602/065_p1.asp

 

PS3 price revealed by PSM
Playstation Magazine has named the PS3 has having quite a low price: $399 in the U.S., €322 in Europe and ¥45,965 in Japan.
These are the other info stated in the PSM:
PS3's 60GB non-removable hard drive as standard.
will have backward compatibility, that PSX/PS1 and PS2 games will run on the PlayStation 3 in 720, 1080i and 1080p.
all PS3 games will be in the Blu-ray format, and will have no region lockouts.
the launch line-up and final design of the PS3's controller will be released at the E3 gaming expo in May.

 

don't know if this applies to the PS3
http://opm.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3149940