PS3 Swap Switch Tutorial

Discussion in 'PS3 - Modding & Hacking' started by pizzag, Apr 22, 2007.

  1. ChaosEnvy

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    i see my idea at being perfictly technacly possible it basicly makes the swap take less than a second i dont think that you fully understand it i think i may put up a schematical sketch of it later
     
  2. tsrps3

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    don't bother, i already know it won't be good for the laser as it won't recalibrate for the backup.
    Later,

    TSR
     
  3. David891

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    I just actually tried my idea to switch of the power suply from Blu-ray and then switch. When you turn it of, the xmb freezes, after changing disc, you turn it on again and the freeze is immidiatly over and Playstation 2 disc still is in the game menu. But when you start it you get a error (after about a minute).
    I also was listening to when the motor stops spinning and I noticed if you stay in the game menu at the Playstation 2 thing, after 10 minutes the disc is still spinning (very slow). When you go to the photo/video/picture the disc stops spinning earlier and is stopped spinning within 10 minutes. I'm going to test this again to see if you can just listen to music while waiting and the exact stopping time.
    BTW I dont smoke crack, but drugs are legal in my country :).
     
  4. ChaosEnvy

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    lol wish they were legal in mine but thats a good find for shuting off power did u create a switch or for trial and error purposes just pull the plug out
     
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  5. David891

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    I gave it 10% to work, so I plugged it out (the thing with 4 wires).

    BTW, I dont even have a switch. I used no switch in my swap switch mod too.
     
  6. grouik

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    hey david,

    have you check the youtube video I posted? its quite similar in principle to your idea of turning off the BD. however its about unplugging the HDD, this freeze the XMB OS and you can then swap the disc without the OS realizing it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdFPUr_-M_E&eurl=http://www.ps3hacks.net/

    Just have a look you will understand what I mean.

    I am not smoking crack either btw.
     
  7. David891

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    Yes it is the same method (changing disc while ps3 freezed), just tried it and when I unplugged the HDD, the xmb freezes but the disc is still spinning so you damage the ps3 when you get the disc out with swap switch. Eject button works but I get the same error when I start the game as what I tried (so same method, only this the video one is easier).
     
  8. samhung

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    Cool, I guess no1 will need to install the switch anymore then.

     
  9. tsrps3

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    I don't. Anyway it's great to see that people are trying new stuffs!
    Later,

    TSR
     
  10. grouik

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    David can you elaborate on the error you are getting? Anybody else tried the hdd unplug technic?
    Imagine if it worked.We could swap without opening the case and voiding the guarantee !
     
  11. David891

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    Have you ever tried starting normal ps2 disc and directly after stating it eject it and put in backup, gives same error as remove hard disc methode. I think after your xmb freezes, the check if it is a real game gets undo, and when starting the game, the check repeats and gives the error (Sorry, cant explain it better with my english)
    You can test it yourself too, by removing the harddisk you still have guarantee (you dont have to open your system).
    I'm now testing how long it takes the laser+motor turn of, I'll post results soon here. After done that I'll put my system back toghether and not open it for a long time cause through my test I now think the swap switch is safe.
     
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    hi david thanks for your answer. what firmware are you running at the momement btw ?
     
  13. David891

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    I just putted my system back togheter and when I started it, it gave a load noise like ''tak tak tak tak''. I buttom on back of ps3 of and restarted, again that noise. I removed the disc while the console was turned off and this time it started well. I putted in a disc, the bleu light started to flash like it always do but the game didn't suck in.
    So I sucked it in with my switch. It started and worked well but when I pressed eject button, blu light flashing again but no game came out.

    The laser is not broken it reads blu-ray and DVD good. The motor isnt broken too, but it works only with swap switch. Do you guys maybe know what is wrong, I dont want to use the swap switch everytime I want to swap disc.
     
  14. tsrps3

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    David, probably you didn't put back the top case of the bd drive back correctly, so the gears aren't positioned as they should be hence why the tak-tak-tak noise.
    Also, you NEED to disable the sensor for the swap to work.
     
  15. David891

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    The eject and put in system from my ps3 died :(.
    When I press the eject button, there is no more ''tak tak'' noise.
    I think some wires from the eject bottom to the eject motor melted or damaged. I dont want to rip off my system again before something ever worse happens. I can still play backups only cant use the original eject button to change original DVD/Blu-ray.
     
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    David, i had taken pics when i was doing the mod.
    On this picture you can see the Eject sensor connector to the PS3.
    It's yellow thing that's circled in pink.
    http://videoff7.free.fr/IMG_1016.jpg edited by ddp
    The view shows from the bottom left of the BD drive
    I would check this first, maybe it has gotten out a little or the connection isn't perfect.
    Hope it helps.
    Later,

    TSR
     
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  17. David891

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    Thanks for trying to help me but that cant be the problem.
    If I have my sensor switch turned on and try to put in a game, the sensor reconizes a disc and the blue-light on the front of the ps3 flashes, the only problem is that the motor dont suck the game in (and doesnt rotate).
    I think when the noise came (doesnt come anymore) something is broken that the electricity ment to go the the motor, doesnt gets there anymore. The 2 original wires on the motor are still in place. Maybe the wire is broken at the other site (cant see where it is) or some chip is fried when the noise came.
    I dont know what it costs to get a new motherboard from the blu-ray player (or however it's called) but I dont want to spent too much on it and I'm affraid too I cant install it.
     
  18. tsrps3

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    David, i don't think the bd drive is damaged nor that anything is burnt.
    I just think the white gears in the top of the bd drive that you have to remove to solder on the motor are out of place, just stuck in a bad way because when you put back the bd drive top, they didn't realign properly.
    I would reopen the ps3 and check this out without any disc inside the console.
    Later,

    TSR
     
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  19. David891

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    I hope nothing is broke or damaged.
    But I can still load and unload discs using the swap switch, and if those white gears where in wrong position. Swap switch would also not be able to eject and load disc's. The error/damage has to be somewhere between the eject buttom and the motor (so probably at the circuit board from the player).
     
  20. jpnn80

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    Up until which firmware version is compatible with this trick ?
     

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