PS3 Swap Switch Tutorial

Discussion in 'PS3 - Modding & Hacking' started by pizzag, Apr 22, 2007.

  1. pizzag

    pizzag Member

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    interesting problem people seem to be having with the original motor setup not working. if you send current back at the curcuit board of course you will fry something. i would think that you would have to solder the original black wire and the black "swap switch" wire to the motor. solder the original red wire coming to the motor to the "original function switch" and solder a red wire from the "original function switch" to the motor along with your "swap switch" red wire. Here is a diagram

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    This way, when your "original function switch" is off, there is no way to short your board as black is only a ground anyways. Correct me if i'm wrong but this way makes good sense to me.


    and also, if unplugging the blu-ray drive doesn't fully allow a swap, how about disconnecting each wire one at a time and and testing your results that way. what i'm thinking is maybe one is power for the entire drive and one or 2 wires could be seperate for laser motor/sensor. that way, you leave power for the entire drive intact, which wouldn't freeze the system but would allow you to stop the laser
    or at least cut power to it so it's not frying itself. This is just an idea of course so don't flame me too bad. Feedback is welcome
     
  2. tsrps3

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    Pizzag i don't know if your new idea would work and frankly i won't try it. For me doing everything with the swap switch is not a problem since i have to go near the ps3 to change discs anyway.

    However, I just read your first post again and you clearly specify that if people want to do the mod while still retaining original function (eject button), then people NEED to put a switch on the original motor wires too so as not to send current to the board while using the swap switch.
    Probably that is the mistake pspwiimod and chaos did.

    Guys also there is something you might want to check. You see where the motor is? just below is a small pcb that contains a switch on the right side.
    (see point 8. of the pizzag tutorial on page 1 for a pic and read his comments) Maybe when you put this little board back you didn't align the right switch properly?

    Later,

    TSR
     
    Last edited: Aug 3, 2007
  3. gunna35

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    guys, forgive me if I'm wrong but generally speaking aren't most LEDs run on 3v lines. As a result if this were the case you could get your power source from the leg of an LED. You would need one that is constantly on though. Such as the green power LED.
     
  4. David891

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    And does anyone knows if you can fix it?
    Like if the wii his ejevt button was broken by modding you could solder a wore over a chip. Maybe you can do the same at the ps3 by solder a wire over a chip that broke.
     
  5. David891

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    On the motor black isnt always ground. When you eject disc maybe, but when you insert disc red wire is ground so you would have to make 2 switches instead of 1.
     
  6. ChaosEnvy

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    Im betting u can but it will be hard i had a problem with my psp i was replacing the screen and i shorted a chip when i was fixing it i had something to go buy when i got it working meaning when i got the solder in the right place the screen would light up
     
  7. Brazilguy

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    Whoa, lots of people with troubled mods...

    To begin with, I can recommend the same as tsrps3, pizzag and pspwiimod did:


    1 - TAKE SOME HOURS AND READ THE WHOLE TOPIC WITH ATTENTION, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE KINDA NOOB IN ELECTRONICS (LIKE ME)

    2 - DON'T SEND CURRENT BACK TO THE SYSTEM AT ANY POINT, USE 3 "3-WAY SWITCHES"

    Then, I can give some advices of my own:

    3 - USE A STRONG LAMP/ SPOTLIGHT ON THE OPENED PS3

    4 - ASK A FRIEND/BROTHER/COUSIN/FATHER/GEEK GIRLFRIEND/WHATEVER TO HELP YOU.

    5 - USE A CLEAN, NEAT TABLE, THE CORRECT TOOLS, AND QUALITY WIRES.

    5 - SINCE THE WIRES THAT POWERS THE SENSOR ARE SMALL, FRAIL AND WEAK, USE CAUTION STRIPPING THEN AND SOLDERING. I DON'T LIKE SOLDERING AT THE BASE, SINCE SOLDERING WIRES IS EASIER. TO STRIP THOSE WIRES I'VE USED A LIGHTER (TIP OF THE FLAME FOR 2 SECONDS).

    6 - SAME AS ABOVE FOR THE SUCK/EJECT MOTOR WIRES.

    7 - WHILE PUTTING THE PS3 BACK TOGHETER DON'T PUT THE BLURAY DRIVE METAL COVER ON, NOR THE PS3 COVER. USE IT LIKE THAT FOR SOME TIME, SO YOU CAN SEE/HEAR THE WHOLE THING HAPPENING, THE DISC LOADING, THE 10 MIN. WAITING TIME, ETC. JUST LIKE YOU WOULD WATCH YOUR CAR'S MOTOR RUNNING TO CHECK IF ALL IT'S WELL.

    8 - USE YOUR REASON, LOGIC, GOOD SENSE AND PATIENCE TO MOD, OR YOU'LL BE RISKING YOUR CONSOLE TO BREAKDOWN. FOR THE P$3 PRICE, WHOLE FAMILIES IN AFRICA COULD EAT FOR MONTHS (OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT). YOUR PS3 IS NOT SOMETHING TO MESS WITH IN A CASUAL WAY.

    9 - IF YOU'RE GONNA DO IT, DO IT WELL OR DON'T DO IT AT ALL.

    I'll soon post pictures of my mod, and how I've managed to overcome the tricky parts making everything look neat, so people can really see it's easy, just like pizzag said on the first post, it's an easy and fair way to play ps2 backups. (JUST READ THE WHOLE POST AND PAY ATTENTION TO THE DETAILS LEARNED!)

    Cya!
     
  8. ChokeDYou

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    First off I have to say there is nothing wrong with using the Intercooler. I have been using this 3 switch MOD with the Intercooler every day problem free. I am still waiting for roughly 6 to 10 minutes in between switching out discs (original to backup NOT Swap Magic).

    My MOD found here at the bottom,

    http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/10/499497


    I can also confirm that I have since been using the hard drive as a power supply with resistors since this diagrams conception,

    found at the bottom,
    http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/6/499497

    THIS WORKS

    In my opinion(it's just opinion), all others having trouble are trying and testing different things and have ran into problems, which is going to happen. If such isn't YOUR(not anyone specific)case, then I believe you got a short from a wire touching something it shouldn't be touching or something of the sorts.

    This is not directed towards anyone specific, I'm just saying what others have stated in so many words, READ THE ENTIRE TOPIC and DO THE JOB RIGHT and you will have no troubles.

    Very huge thanks to the 5 people that contributed to this MOD,

    in no said order,

    pizzag (for the swap idea)
    alien1201 (3 switch MOD diagram)
    tsrps3 (trial and error testing of disc swap)HE HE
    vidar85 (power supply diagram instead of batteries)
    ChokeDYou (ME for using the Intercooler to mount it all)HE HE

    Respectfully,
    ChokeDYou
     
  9. Valiran

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    Hello all!
    i'm new on this forum, a frenchie :)

    I'm actually trying to install a swap trick method in my PS3 60GB JAP. And, after reading the whole pages of this thread, something sounds strange for me. Everything explained here is that the switch (I will take the example of non-auto method) permit the user to eject and insert a disc without pushing original eject button and so to make the ps3 thinking you've not changed the disc. But for me, the disc is spinning every time, so if I add a switch, how my disc will get out with the rotor spinning?

    My firmware is 1.90. Can you explain this dark side of that method please??

    Thanks a lot and sorry for my poor english :)
     
  10. ChaosEnvy

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    The roter is lowerd b4 the disc is ejected and if u read the full articly u would have herd the problems such as bust BD bored like i did or damaging laser
     
  11. tsrps3

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    yeah clearly he didn't read the whole thread.
    Another upcoming damaged PS3?
    Later,

    TSR
     
  12. alien1201

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    Hi tsrps3 ur PS3 is NTSC, right?
    If u use swap magic can ur PS3 play PS2 PAL game?
    I guess there is no way swap magic un-region code run on PS3, but the way just asking.

    p.s. I almost done my trick, by just use 2 switch only(same with 3 switch function). Now just waitting the USB fan comming, and put the switch on it.
     
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  13. tsrps3

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    > Hi tsrps3 ur PS3 is NTSC, right?

    Yeah

    > If u use swap magic can ur PS3 play PS2 PAL game?

    That's right.

    > I guess there is no way swap magic un-region code run on PS3, but the way just asking.

    No the way the trick works allows you to bypass region, since the dvd being authenticated is only the original you input first. after you can swap with anything, it will work. For PS2 games only, PS1 is another story with region, games need to be patched to match your console's region for them to work.

    > p.s. I almost done my trick, by just use 2 switch only(same with 3
    > switch function). Now just waitting the USB fan comming, and put
    > the switch on it.

    Be careful with the 2 switchs only because when you use the motor manually it can send current back to the board!
    Read the thread FULLY man, little advice.
    Later,

    TSR
     
  14. ChaosEnvy

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    Wow ur an idiot read the whole thread thats what i did 2 switch method and i fried BD bord good luck finding a new one
     
  15. pspwiimod

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    2 switch would work fine. dont worry. Just make sure you cut the wire from the board to the motor, install a switch on the motor and install a switch on the sensor.
     
  16. alien1201

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    Thanks tsrps3, i guess i need 1 swap magic for as TOC and it will let me play NTSC PS2 game, because my PS3 is PAL. Just for ensure its the swap magic disc I need is PAL SMagic?

    u guy is wrong, my 2switch function is same with 3 switch function.
    and that is no worry about current run back to mainboard.

    After the PS3 USB Fan coming i will put the both switch on it, on the time just post all the pic to u guy. And the 2 switch circuit draw as well.
     
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  17. tsrps3

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    yeah alien, PAL PS3 so you need PAL Swap Magic.
    Later,

    TSR
     
  18. d1770

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    hello.
    an offer to those who have damaged blu ray drives, I am able to help with repairing them for you.
    this is not a ploy to get business, just a genuine offer.
    repairing game consoles is my full time job (37 years as technician).
    if you would like my help, please send a message.
    note. I only repair, I do not modify or give advice or technical information for the purpose of modifying. thanks.
    d1770
     
  19. kpuz

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    hi,
    I have a noob question about the 1-switch mod. If I press the eject button on my modded ps3, would that stop the disc from spinning and turn off the laser?
     
  20. alien1201

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    no, but if u not run any disc in BR-drive 8-10min it will auto stop the disc spinning and turn off laser. And after that u can swap back-up disc.
     

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