PS3 Swap Switch Tutorial

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  1. alien1201

    alien1201 Member

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    PS3 got a disc sensor to know when the disc u put in, than the motor will run to load-in the PS3 drive. u try this trick on ur PS3 u need to unplug the sensor(someone say on front), so dont let PS3 load/unload by self. Let it manualy so we just can swap disc.
    Good Luck on u, and me as well.
     
  2. tsrps3

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  3. chrissy12

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    thanks hi,,good video, btw nice tv
     
  4. simon2196

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    Can anybody else get this to work for PS1 games? ive got a JAP ps3 60GB I load in a J-NTSC game, loads no problems, in xmb i swap out the game with a PAL and just get an error code.
     
  5. tsrps3

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    when i try loading PS1 USA imports originals on my jap ps3, i just get black screen. If I load the exact same PS1 USA game but from CD-R, it works.
    So it seems for PS1 we can only load backup, not original imports.
    Also make sure that the TOC size of the original PS1 jpn disc you use to swap is equal or bigger than the TOC size of the ps1 backup you're trying to load.
     
  6. SupraGaz

    SupraGaz Guest

    God dam I made a balls up (i think).

    As for the switch method it works fine, loads and unloads no problem.

    My problem is the Jap PS2 game I bought. It is a Dynasty Warriros game and is a compact disc not a DVD! Is this why my backups will not load as they are all on DVD. I do the swap and get the PlayStation 2 splash screen and then I get reverted back to the xmb with an Error Occured messege.
     
  7. tsrps3

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    Yes, it is the reason.
    If you want to boot backups on DVD5 or DVD9, you need to boot from DVD5 & DVD9 originals (respectively).
    You can only boot ps2 CD imports/backups with the original japan game you just bought.
    (it happens that i am looking for a ps2 original japan game that's on cd, if you don't have a use for it, and if it isn't scratch, i may be interested in geting it from you :p, it has the blue bottom right?)
     
  8. SupraGaz

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    Sorry tsrps3 I swapped my Jap PS2 CD for a DVD this morning. It was a blue bottom disc. So far now all my backups works as well as PAL games on my Jap PS3. Thanks for everyones help who made this possible.

    I too have made a quick vid showing how the switch works http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v376/gazza14sr/?action=view&current=10062007015.flv

    Now I have it working I shall tidy it up alittle bit. Currently making a case at work to house the battery pack and switch.

    Thanks again.

    Gaz
     
  9. tsrps3

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    Excellent SupraGaz!
    Who's next!!?
     
  10. SupraGaz

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    tsrps3, this is the seller I met on ebay last nght who I got my Jap PS3 game off. This game he is selling is a CD not DVD if it may interest you, unsure if you are in the UK though and if not, if he will post abroad or not. Worth a shot. Unless if you want me to buy it and you pay me for it through paypal or something?
    Ebay Link

    Cheers
     
  11. SupraGaz

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    Hi,
    I have abit of a problem. I have installed the switch etc but some games are struggling to load.

    I can load some original pal/ntsc games and certain backups with no problems, they play fine. Others either hang on the first loading screen (ssx tricky, wwe 2007) others just have a black screen (Resi4, Black). The games that hang can still be exited the correct way by holding the PS button and selecting quit.

    Is it something to do with the size of the disc that I am using as an original? If a game has a bigger capacity than my original will it not load? My original is 2.4gb, all the games that do not load exceed this. The games that do load are smaller that 2.4gb.

    Is this why some load and other dont or is there another reason to this. Thanks.
     
  12. tsrps3

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    Hey Supra, thanks for the trouble but i managed to find one alright from a pal who's got plenty of demos he can part with.
    Thanks for the proposal though.

    As for your backups not booting, it is clearly because the TOC of you original is "only" 2.4Gb.

    I can boot RE4 alright with DMC jap, i think DMC is one of the games with the biggest TOC so i would suggest to go for this one.

    So far there is not a single DVD5 PS2 backup that failed to load here :D

    I made a strange discovery for PS1 backups, only backups of the same region as the console can boot!?
    For exemple on my ps3 jap, only jap ps1 backups load. If i try an USA PS1 backup, it fails (black screen).

    Luckily, all work OK for PS2 games (i prefer that than the other way round)

    See you,

    TSR
     
  13. SupraGaz

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    I thought it would be due to the size as Pro Evo 6 plays (a backup) and is 1.6gb and Aggressive Inline plays (an original) but that too is below 2.4gb.

    Cheers for the tip on DMC, i may pick that one up then.

    Thanks for your help and speedy response! :)
     
  14. SupraGaz

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    I was wondering with the PS3 going into 'PS2 mode' when a PS2 game is inserted, even if it is a dual layer disc, would the swap trick still work with this? Thinking of getting Rogue Galaxy (jap) as that game is bigger than all the PS2 games I own (its about 7gb), but it is dual layer, just wondered if this may make any difference?

    Cheers
     
  15. tsrps3

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    of course it is dangerous!
    Because when you put an original DVD5, the lense is calibrated for DVD5 and doesn't expect a 2nd layer! (i think)

    So if you want to boot a backup DVD9, you are gonna have to find an original DVD9 to swap it with!

    For exemple I use Metal Gear Solid 2 substance JPN original DVD9 if i want to boot God of War backup.

    As for booting a DVD5 backup using a DVD9 original, i'm not sure it would be good for the laser because it is expecting a DVD9 at all times.. i'm unsure as to wether it would work or not, but i will not attempt it to know the answer :p
    See you,

    TSR
     
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  16. loglog84

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    so, I want to do this. some pictures are not visible. can any of you help me install this switch w/o hassle? any advice? I have modded xbox, ps2, wii all by myself. I dont see much soldering problem though. i have never opened ps3...
     
  17. SupraGaz

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    Heres something I did:

    Here some pics I took when I used the swap magic method & some more recent pics:

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    (be careful when removing the rubber that is used as grip when the PS3 is on the side. It is abit tight and can split easy, it is under the warrenty sticker)

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    Once the torx bolt is removed, the top cover slides across and lifts up.

    Revealing this, remove screws where circled. (all of them)

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    The top section of the PS3 removes like this:

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    Tilt it until about 45 - 90 degrees and it then slides off.

    Be careful if you have a memory card reader, unclip this before sliding the top section off:

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    The same goes for the Blu ray drive. Lift the drive up and there is another clip that you need to pull back in order for the drive to be completely disconnected from the PS3. Remove the blu ray drive casing.

    Remove the screws on the blu ray drive as shown:

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    Lift the top section of the blu ray drive up and you are left with this:

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    Remove the screw that is 9'o clock to the laser, it is a phillips head and is silver at the side where the disc is inserted.

    Lift the blu ray disc guideance plastic up and you are left with this:

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    Where the motor is situated (the silver rectangle thing in the pic) there is 2 screws holding this down on a small bracket. I removed these and snipped the wires to the motor. Took the motor to work and soldered 2 new wires on.

    Put the motor back in place and fed my new wires under the circuit board that has 3 screws in. This circuit board does not come all the way up once the 3 screws are out but there is enought room to feed the wires underneth the board and out the side of the blu ray drive as the pic shows:

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    I then fed my wires to the front of the PS3, underneath the power on/eject circuit board and down the the opposite end under the card reader. I then fed them through one of the vent holes so I did not have to drill a hole or anything. Heres the pic for that:

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    Then re-assemble.
    Hope it helps.
     
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  18. loglog84

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    what gwg wires are you guys using? all i got is 30gwg wire sitting in my home. any recommendations?
     
  19. sporting6

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    oh man could someone please help lol, I got all the soldering done ok, motor works and it loads and unloads discs but as soon as the disc is in it wont start spinning......any ideas????
     
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