PS3 vs 360 is not a contest

"well ps3 is far superior in everyway to the xbox 360."

maybe it is supierior but not by much other wise xbox 360 would not have better looking games at the momment.

 

the xbox 360 was rushed ,beacuase microsoft knows if they get on pair with the ps3 ,the ps3 and ps2 will totally destroy them.

 

I think sony will be the one who is rushing come november. They didn't have anything more than a bunch of fancy CGI movies at E3, just like last time. And it was a kick in the teeth to find out the E3 05' game shots were just CGI because they tooted them to be real time game play. I saw MGS4, it looks just as good as MGS3 does, with just slightly sharper graphics. The next gen consoles have the power to be next gen, but most of the games coming out are not taking full advantage because the developers aren't used to having this much to work with. Say what you will about it, but the 360 is still impressive spec-wise compared to a PC, which is usually where it is all supposed to start. Its only now we're seeing consoles that are better than most affordable super-gaming machines. And I can't think of a reason I would need 2 or 3 dual core processors to run any game on a PC, so they're both pretty damn good. And i'll bash sony all day long, but i'll definitely have a PS3. Sony is a necessary evil.

 

Pressed: what are you talking about just about all PS3 games was real time ex:Metalgear4,eightdays,Assassin Creed,& The GetAway.Check out gamespot.com to see for yourself.

 

pressed.. do your self a favor and watch this video of the interview with Insomniac games and the expected launch title. IMO it doenst seem that they are rushing things. next gen to me is exactly what he says when physics are going to play key parts. interactions with environments are going resemble life like situations, like the breaking of glass. i think everyone would agree graphics are going to only get better, but personally i'd take the inferior ps2 graphics any day for improved AI and realism. having to hide dead bodys from guards, blood stains on walls/floors that dont just disapear, rocks or debris being kicked up by tires, bullet casings/fragmentation..etc those are next gen steps that i am most interested in. overall im pretty impressed


http://www.ps3portal.com/ps3/videos/60.html

 

except for the AI of your own team often running into your bullets occasionally, i think i counted that happen like 3 times, it looks aight, for an FPS. I won't say its miles beyond 360 though. The textures are nice and sharp on there too. But its not like gonna make me go OMG I MUST HAVE THIS! If the video of what they showed of Assassin was in game, that would make me say that though. But it looked like CGI to me.

 

Yeh i must say the video wasnt bad by no means but it surely wasnt nothing to write home about.You have to be asking yourself this one question when you like at anything ps3 and thats is it worth the 200bucks more than the xbox 360.Are the graphics,loading times,physics,AI. and etc. that much better to spend the the extra money?Granted it has a whole slew of new technology like blu-ray and so on but unless u have an hdtv thats worthless if u own a standard dvd player.

I personally like that MS gives you the choice to spend the extra money if you want on the hd-dvd player and gives u an opton,its not for everyone.MAny people believe it or not buy gaming consoles to play games.i Personally think that if sony had not combined the blu-ray player with the ps3 console and released the console at the same price of the 360 it wouldnt even have been a contest due to the plethera of loyal sony fans. Now its going to be a lot more difficult for sony to maintain its dominance of the market.iI know a the gaming community isnt made up of kids anymore and hasnt been for a while but i would say that atleast kids make up25% of the gaming community.Pricing the console so high could have parents flocking ot the two lower priced consoles (360,wii) which losing even 15% of your sales to something like that could be detrimental

 

^^so true^^

At least it'll make next-gen 'console wars' moe interesting. It's better when nobody dominates, stronger competition = more effort to haver better games, accessories and competitive pricing (depending how the PS3 fares at first).

It so IS a contest.

 

then theres this
games beng produced on the xbox have stopped

ps2 games continue
this is more like a tagteam battle

 

then theres this
games beng produced on the xbox have stopped

ps2 games continue
this is more like a tagteam battle

 

I agree. I am one of those loyal Sony gamers and I don't want a blu-ray player.
Sony have got themselves so wrapped up in Blu-ray that they can't see beyond it. PS3's games will be no-bigger than a DVD9 for a LONG LONG time.
But even saying that - I don't want second best and that is what the 360 will always be so it looks like I'll have to bite the PS3 Blu-ray bullet.

 

Not to stir up anything but i dont see how its second best.It has graphics that you wont be able to distinguish the differnce of the two if you tried.Game developers said that games released on both systems will look and play identical.Xbox-live will dominate anything sony has to offer and i can say that with 100% certainty,thats MS's baby and they have nutured it for over 3yrs now.To think that sony came just come out and slap a service together better than xbox live on their first real attemp is acenine.I surely dont think the ps3 will be a dissapointment and i think it will be a great system but thats the way i feel about the 360 i paid 200dollars less for.

I keep hearing the discs arent big enough and oblivion proved that wrong,then people go on to say that becasue they crammed it onto one disc it had poor loading times but thats clearly not true because their was over half the discs left and if the space affected the loading times they would have used more of it up.I havent heard one solid argument that can be launched against the 360,problems of overheating...all ssytems experience that in the first run such has ps2 and so on. They had apair of ps3's freeze at e3 do you guys see 360 fans filling this forum up with discussion of that?All i ask is to address both systems as equal then play them and make a decision.Its like school,you essentially start the class out with a score of 100% then anything you score less than that lowers your grade.Most people look at it the other way and thats how the 360 is being judged becasue it doesnt have the sony label on it.

loading times=same
Graphics=same
internet service=360 wins(please dont be naive on this one)
controllers=personal prefernce but for arguments sake give the nod to the vet so sony wins(even though the 360 has been ranked online in reviews as the best controller design ever)
games=sony wins but is loosing exclusives like its their job
price=clearly the 360 wins
risk factor=sony blew the big one on htis they have way more at stake


i could go on with catergories but it would be a little crazy,all in all said theres just not clear consices evidence to spend the extra cash.but in the end this is just my personal opinion,buy the one you like

 

loaidng times=same
Graphics=same
internet service=360 wins(please dont be naive on this one)
controllers=personal prefernce but for arguments sake give the nod to the vet so sony wins(even though the 360 has been ranked online in reviews as the best controller design ever)
games=sony wins but is loosing exclusives like its their job
price=clearly the 360 wins
risk factor=sony blew the big one on htis they have way more at stake

So true, you can read it again...

 

Ok

If you could have one console sitting under your TV right now, PS3 or 360 irrespective of price which would it be?

 

oh god when will it end. 360's better.... Just that i'd through that in there.

 

i think your estimate of 25% market share kids make up is a bit high. i say this because CNN this past week broke down the share and the majority were people 18-35, and younger kids did not fair too well. the best way to explain this is to look at all the major titles on either system. DMC series, socom, halos, mgs, gta, god of war, gears of war...etc etc, they all have one major similarity... they are mature rated games. both these consoles are marketed and directed for upper teens to young adults. this is primarily one of the major reasons why i think nintendo is still around and manages to do quite well. it is fair to say nintendo is well known for making child games and the success of the DS explains it. im not too sure its so much parents doing the flocking to stores but actually the game players themselves. im not saying you dont have a point because im certain sony will lose some fanbase because of its price, but there is also another huge factor sony has working in their favor.

the ps2 is still in production and looks to have a continued life for a few more years. games are still being made and the price is only getting lower. i think some of the loyal fans or parents who cant or dont want to upfront the $$$ for these systems would be more than content with the ps2 and its continued game lineups. they ironically enough may actually wait out a year or two for a price drop. not everyone is an early adopter, especially those who have dependents... everyone says why buy at launch??? its full of bugs etc, so with the continued production and support of ps2, im not too sure there is going to be any damper in sony's fan base. remember microsoft is switching its processors in the first quarter of 2007, so it would seem there is not a major rush to the stores yet. the ps2 did outsell the 360 last xmas.... be that it may have been due to the shortage of 360s, either way it still continued to sell.

Microsoft has only but one advantage, and its simply the fact that their system has been out for a longer period of time, and the initial bugs/flaws are being handled. games are going to start being released with the craftiness and quality most expected out of this next gen console, but sony is releasing some few million at launch (forgot the actual amount), and believe me im sure they will sell everyone...$600 or not. both these systems are not what we typically think game consoles to be, like in the early days of nintendo and sega, there just soo much more...

think of a younger kid who has a ps2 in his bedroom. not only does he have a ps2, but he also has a ps1/cdplayer/dvdplayer... i think thats more appealing to parents today than the 360 would be considering the ps2's vast array of games. how many games to date for the 360 are actually suitable, or were made for kids??? most are atleast T ratings. the ps2 still today is the 360s number 1 competitor...

 

Cant judge the ps3 completely because it isnt out yet but if i'll go along with the scenario and i would say the 360 because of my gaming preference.I like sports games and fps or you could just say more mautre games than sony makes on the whole.I loved God of war for ps2 but other than that no ther game peaked my interest.God of war deficated on devil may cry in my eyes so i see no need to play that.Metal gear solid series has gotten old and played out just as gta has to me but hey thats just me.Outdside of that sony has lost multiple exclusives and it seems to be getting worse.

List of exclusives lost to be multiplatform:

1.smackdown vs raw(now gives xbox a solid wrestling game)
2.GTA
3.Madden(correct me if im wrong be when xbox came out they had nfl fever which had peyton manning on the cover and didnt have madden til their 2nd or 3rd yr)


unfortunatly im goat-thinking right now or i would name some others but those alone are a crazy powerful gaming frachises.BUti will be on later to update this list.360 is on a upswing in the only catergory that made ps2 beat the xbox in the last gen console war which is games and sonys going the oppsoite way.

 

well im not too sure what you mean by going the oppositie way, but the fact that the exclussive titles you mentioned are no longer exclussive isnt hurting sony one bit, and i also dont think it really jump starts microsoft either. now if halo or mgs went the otherway...then, i think it may have an impact. have you ever wondered why developers work both sides??? kinda has a little to do with that tiny reason why their in business...i mean what company after a period of time wants to miss out on a market that consists of MILLIONS of potential customers?

also a lot is being said about blu ray disk size and there being an abundant amount of empty space on disks. well in the early go i can see that happening, but whose to say down the road for example, those titles you mentioned earlier as lost exclussive companys dont make similar but different versions for the two consoles. whose to say that sony's version of the game may incorporate more levels, extended play, extra characterics etc. we have no idea what is in store for us 3+ years from now. what if companys did what they do for pc sequals and include prequals. why not have a sequal on ps3 include the prequal to it on the same damn disc. offer two versions of newer games..for example someone can buy socom 8 for ps3 for 60$, or you can buy socom 8 that includes 7 for 85$. similar to what madden did couple years ago with the collectors edition. there are a lot of creative people out there, and i would like to think someone some where will find a way to utilize the space.

im only curious but am i the only one who is actually pleased to see graphical the ps3 is on par with the 360... throw out the arguments of specs and capabilities for a minute, but for me the ps2 was always inferior to xbox, and now there just about on the same page... so combine that with their strong game line up, the fact unless it changed that its backwards cap, and i think its a pretty good place to be for sony atm

 

easy, PS3, then, i'd go sell it and use the $ to get a 360 and wait for the wii

 

dude it was fun at first now its anoying. buy whatever the hell you want be it 360 or ps3 as long as its not the wii. right now i see no diference in ps2 and xbox wich might be the same thing with 360 and ps3. you never know wich one will pull ahead in a year.

hardcore gamers will buy their system no matter the price so stop discussing that. by hard core i mean its your main hobbie not if your going to play madden when some friends come over.And this is extremely true for example all the people that are into rc cars or airplains they spend aton of hours putting together their vehicles and an insane amount (to the people that arent into it) to modifi it.

if i have made my point clear
ill leave your debate with one last question

everyone says that the developers say that the graphics will look the same on both systems why havent any of you proven it?

some one post a video of a developer saying this or give us a link to an official developers web site that says this