PS3 Vs. XBOX 360

oke ill settle this now.

the 360 has 3, 3.2 ghz prosesors that make up for 1 terra flop.

the ps3 has got 1 cell chip that exists of 8 cores all aqctive running at 2 teraflops but there alr always 7 running so itll be 1.8 terraflops.

so ps3 is 2 as fast as 360 but the 360 is 2 as powerfull it has a larger l2 cache and more mb ram

that make up fore eachother

so in preformance they are the same.

about the graphics ... its not siure but sony says that the ps3 is powerfull and fast enough to use 3 gforce 6800
so wat the xbox on the E3 was empty and the games were running on 4 to 5 gforce 6800 and the graphics were still not that great becouse the 360 is made for better.

but that is something we all will see.

and something else ill buye them all.

some usefull info.

360 has got about 200 titles wayting for the release date.
ps3 has got over 15.000!!!.
yes fifteen thousend!!!

oke end of the info

ps3 is more made for single player and 360 for multiplayer you can see.

but so far we still agree that the 3601 and ps3 are the seme in the specs but now there is something that i myself ditnot beleve at first.

the thing that makes the 360 better than ps3!

tha online service

ps3 has a memory bantwith of 26.5 gb a second! LOL


and the 360 has .. oke hold your breath ....256gigs a second!!!!!!!!
i couldnt beleve it myself so i emaild all the sites and called to microsoft and got the head of the 360 development department and he confirmed all the numbers one by one i quote "yes the numbers are 2, 5, 6, and not 2, 5, dot 6"
"so it is twohundred and fifty six gb a second"

oke now i must apolagise for my englich becouse i typed this really fast and diddnt fell for a chekup

lol but no matter wat hapens im gonna buye 360, ps3, and the revolution.

p.s.
the revolution is taken back to the drawing board becouse the console was not hd compattable and the other 2 were so now revolution is hd to

 

The PS3's GPU is capable of 1.8 TFLOPS. The XBox 360's overall performance, both GPU and CPU, is 1 teraflop. The PS3 is 2 TFLOPS overall.

The PS3's SPEs, seven operation, each has their own 256KB LS (load store, or cache, relative to an L2 cache. They both have 512MB of RAM, lukily the PS3 has 256MB of the 3.2GHz XDR RAM, and the Xbox 360 is all 700MHz.

The XBox has a single CPU, three cores. The fact that it all operates in a single socket on one die sharing the FBS is much different than multiple CPU's.

SO much of your information, all of you, is misconstrued. Almost every in these forums argument is anecdotal.

 

I missed that. The 256 GB/s overall system bandwidth is firely propanganda. This measure includes the EDRAM which is around this figure and blazing fast.

The fact is, is that there is 10MB of it and it is on a daughterboard of the ATI GPU. The EDRAM is that fast, but the bandwith between the daughter board and main board of the GPU is some ~32 GB/s.

This is a significant bottle neck that leaves that figure total BS.

 

The PS3 probably will be better, because there must be a reason for their high price [bold]dont you think!?!?[/bold]

 

Hey Pippa, don't mean to be a killjoy. I was exactly the same years ago. I guess when you get a bit older you can just sit back and think "Who cares which is better, just get both!". But you're right, I remember having arguments and the great decision between 3do or Jaguar......and they both sucked anyway but at the time 3do had Need for Speed and Road Rash so it ruled! Heck i bought a Snes the day it came out and then wish I bought a Megadrive. Well enjoy the thread.......and in true spirit of the thread...PS3 will be better, oh wait no Xbox 360.....!!! Jus' kidding. P Oh and as for the car park comment can I say at this point I was in the Royal Marines for 10 years? ;oD

 

i diddnt know the ps3 was more expansive i heard from the shops in europe that the 360 will be 345 euro and the ps3 265 euro:S

 

i diddnt know the ps3 was more expansive i heard from the shops in europe that the 360 will be 345 euro and the ps3 265 euro:S

but is the ps3 is more expansive itll be becouse sony spent a lot of money on the development of the cell

 

i diddnt know the ps3 was more expansive i heard from the shops in europe that the 360 will be 345 euro and the ps3 265 euro:S

but is the ps3 is more expansive itll be becouse sony spent a lot of money on the development of the cell

 

Xbox 360 System Performance Specifications

Custom IBM PowerPC-based CPU
· Three symmetrical cores running at 3.2 GHz each
· Two hardware threads per core; six hardware threads total
· VMX-128 vector unit per core; three total
· 128 VMX-128 registers per hardware thread
· 1 MB L2 cache

CPU Game Math Performance
· 9 billion dot product operations per second

Custom ATI Graphics Processor
· 10 MB of embedded DRAM
· 48-way parallel floating-point dynamically scheduled shader pipelines
· Unified shader architecture

Polygon Performance
· 500 million triangles per second

Pixel Fill Rate
· 16 gigasamples per second fill rate using 4x MSAA

Shader Performance
· 48 billion shader operations per second

Memory
· 512 MB of 700 MHz GDDR3 RAM
· Unified memory architecture

Memory Bandwidth
· 22.4 GB/s memory interface bus bandwidth
· 256 GB/s memory bandwidth to EDRAM
· 21.6 GB/s front-side bus

Overall System Floating-Point Performance
· 1 teraflop

Storage
· Detachable and upgradeable 20GB hard drive
· 12x dual-layer DVD-ROM
· Memory Unit support starting at 64 MB

I/O
· Support for up to four wireless game controllers
· Three USB 2.0 ports
· Two memory unit slots

Optimized for Online
· Instant, out-of-the-box access to Xbox Live features with broadband service, including Xbox Live Marketplace for downloadable content, gamer profile for digital identity, and voice chat to talk to friends while playing games, watching movies, or listening to music

· Built-in Ethernet port
· Wi-Fi ready: 802.11a, 802.11b, and 802.11g
· Video camera ready

Digital Media Support
· Support for DVD-Video, DVD-ROM, DVD-R/RW, DVD+R/RW, CD-DA, CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW, WMA CD, MP3 CD, JPEG Photo CD
· Ability to stream media from portable music devices, digital cameras and Windows XP-based PCs
· Ability to rip music to the Xbox 360 hard drive
· Custom playlists in every game
· Built-in Media Center Extender for Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005
· Interactive, full-screen 3-D visualizers

High-Definition Game Support
· All games supported at 16:9, 720p, and 1080i, anti-aliasing
· Standard-definition and high-definition video output supported

Audio
· Multi-channel surround sound output
· Supports 48KHz 16-bit audio
· 320 independent decompression channels
· 32-bit audio processing
· Over 256 audio channels

System Orientation
· Stands vertically or horizontally

Customizable Face Plates
· Interchangeable to personalize the console

 

PLAYSTATION®3 Specifications

CPU
--Cell Processor PowerPC-base Core @3.2GHz
-1 VMX vector unit per core
-512KB L2 cache
-7 x SPE @3.2GHz
-7 x 128b 128 SIMD GPRs
-7 x 256KB SRAM for SPE
-* 1 of 8 SPEs reserved for redundancy total floating point performance : 218 GFLOPS

GPU
--RSX @550MHz
-1.8 TFLOPS floating point performance
-Full HD (up to 1080p) x 2 channels
-Multi-way programmable parallel floating point shader pipelines

Sound
-Dolby 5.1ch, DTS, LPCM, etc. (Cell-base processing)

Memory
-256MB XDR Main RAM @3.2GHz
-256MB GDDR3 VRAM @700MHz

System Bandwidth
-Main RAM 25.6GB/s
-VRAM 22.4GB/s
-RSX 20GB/s (write) + 15GB/s (read)SB 2.5GB/s (write) + 2.5GB/s (read)

System Floating Point Performance
2 TFLOPS

Storage
--HDD
-Detachable 2.5” HDD slot x 1

I/O
--USB
-Front x 4, Rear x 2 (USB2.0)

--Memory Stick
-standard/Duo, PRO x 1

--SD
-standard/mini x 1

--CompactFlash
-(Type I, II) x 1


Communication
--Ethernet
-(10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T) x 3(input x 1 + output x 2)

--Wi-Fi
-IEEE 802.11 b/g

--Bluetooth
-Bluetooth 2.0 (EDR)


Controller
-Bluetooth (up to 7)
-USB2.0 (wired)
-Wi-Fi (PSP®)
-Network (over IP)

AV Output
--Screen size
-480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p

--HDMI
-HDMI out x 2

--Analog
-AV MULTI OUT x 1

--Digital audio
-DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL) x 1
Disc media* read only
--CD
-PlayStation® CD-ROM
-PlayStation®2 CD-ROM
-CD-DA CD-DA (ROM), CD-R, CD-RW
-SACD SACD Hybrid (CD layer), SACD HD
-DualDisc DualDisc (audio side), DualDisc (DVD side)

--DVD
-PlayStation®2 DVD-ROM
-PLAYSTATION®3 DVD-ROM
-DVD-Video DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW

--Blu-ray Disc PLAYSTATION®3 BD-ROM
BD-Video BD-ROM, BD-R, BD-RE

 

There is no need to post everything twice

But the PS3 price wont be 265, I say above the 500 already, cause if the Price would be 265, I wouldnt expect to get incredible quality for that price, Im better off buying 2 PS2's. The PS3 is going to be expensiver then the Xbox360 when its coming out, since the Xbox360 is going to be released sooner, the price of it wil be lowered during the time.

And if the PS3 has a line-up of 15 000 games, as someone mentioned before, that would mean Sony could easaly release 1 or 2 games a week, and keep that up for more then 10 years,
On first, that is great, more games, more fun, more options, but for Sony self it wouldnt pay of more I think, since every consumer has a budget, and wont buy everything, or wont be able to buy everything, but if they let the suplys of games last for 30 years, new products, from Microsoft, Nintendo, or even their own wil automaticly make the wild stock of games useless and a waste of money.

But I think/hope they have a plan for this

 

wow 500 omg thats a lot but its possible but i mentioned the 15000 games but as you know sony has got a lot of great games but 60 % of all the games are crap and about 60% of the 15000 will be the same still its a lot and i got that info from the E3

 

PS3 is looking at $400 base price, 1 version, silver. Black and white may have been dropped.

The Xbox 360 is confirmed to come in a $300 package and $400 package.

The PS3 is a $400 piece of hardware, the Xbox 360 is $300 worth of hardware (retail price anyway, they are actually losing money). But to make the 360 look like it's a as good console they will throw in a bunch of accessories to make a $400 version too.

 

ke but i think sony must have a lot of curage becouse they spent a lot of money on the cell

 

In my opinion both of these consoles look pretty good But I dont care how powerful the ps3 is because I mostly prefer xbox360.(well actualy you know what?...I should get both)

It seems to me that in some areas Ps3 is stronger and in others xbox 360 is stronger but both of these systems make up for their weaknesses like xbox 360 has 256gigs and the Ps3 has more terraflop power. And even if Ps3 does have better graphics I wouldnt count xbox 360 out of this fight just jet.

Peace out!

 

how can all of you waste your time worring about which console will be better.i have all 3 consoles pc gbasp and i love them all.you people must not be gamers at all.a hardcore gamer just wants the chance to exper and beat all games and hope they have a gripping storyline and action to keep you interested long enough to beat the game,because if the storyline sucks you will probally get bored and probally the game will grow dust and never get beat.what happened to rock out and get your game on.i guess everyone here has sucky games and nothing better to do but write and bitch about stupid threads[lol].im only voicing my opinion cause my hands hurt and i needed a break. peace out dont take this thread personally

 

What I find funny is, that only Sony and Microsoft seems to be in the race, now I dont think Nintendo is going to fall behind that easy, I havent seen a single hardware Scheme of the Revolution, or a list of games. This I find, odd.

I think PS3 and Xbox360 are both outstandingly good, I dont think you can conclude a winner, as there wil always be a difference of taste, and trust. But Sony issnt going to make much profit out of this, as a mather of fact, not at all, even with a price of 400, they wont make profit. next to that, rumours goes that the Hard disk of the PS3, wont be included with the PS3 itself, but that it has need to be bought seperatly, what I find a very dirty trick, its like selling a flashlight without batterys. But I do not know if this all is true though, but if it is, it would be an incredible mistake of marketing.

 

and Rugripper, your right about that, but I find it amusing hearing opinions of others, and their way of looking at a console. I think everybody rather have both of them.

And taking part of a discussion in a forrum, has nothing to do with our game/console collection ^^.

 

yeah that pretty much sucks hard drive sold seperatly.thats like taking a shit and not having toilet paper[lol,which sucks by the way]all these rumors going around just makes these companies like sony and micro happy cause they probably read some of these forms, jump in secretly,and start the rumors, so they know how much money they can rip the public off for.a gaming machine is only worth $75 us dollars for them to make cause the amount of volume they buy.then they hype it up to get us to pay big bucks for something that will probably play just a little bit better [more crashes explosions,etc].the games for these systems wont probably be really outragous till 3 or 4 years go bye. the games are starting to get really cool for these consoles today ,why not hit the max on these consoles before changing up,but these conglomerites are very greety and they dont really care about the gamer ,just money.thats why the games get nicer looking but have a very short playing time.games should be at least 30 to 35 hrs long for 50 dollars but the avg game is 10 hrs anymore which sucks.well im talking to much about things that piss me off so peace out

 

Consoles these days seem to have a very short shelf life. It's a lot less than five years that the Playstation 1 enjoyed. This is mainly due to microchip technology moving so quick and of course the demand from consumers. Sony could charge £500 for the PS3 and they would still sell millions of units as people are prepared to pay that kind of money. I also think that consoles are being marketed toward the older audience; the 20 something year old who can afford the cost of the console and games. A lot of games nowadays have adult content anyway, be it violence or sex (GTA SA prime example). Microsoft/Sony are very smart and have certainly done their homework. Nintendo, while different, need to get with the programme if they don't want to go the same way as Sega did. I should think I'll get the Xbox purley to see what happens with Halo but I will also get the PS3 as I love Gran Turismo and the Metal Gear series.