yeah you can add me to your firends list, its just that i do not play madden i am more of an fps guy.
i got far cry rabbity, i tried to put ur sn in and i got nada. it said that it was an invalid name. Long live the 360
im back. hooray. sorry for what i said. i was depressed and angered at my life. so what did i miss? anything extraordinary? i havnt seen much new news on the ps3. i noticed someone said the rsx is like a 7800gtx, but its more close to a 7900gtx. i think, aswell as some others, the core in the rsx was used for the 7900's aswell, since a nice gpu was already designed it was effective to continue it. sure the xenos or w/e has newer, but is new always better? it could have the same fill rates and quality.
oh blah blah blah graphics, oh blah blah blah blah blah graphics oh blah blah blah blah blah blah graphics. if you actually read the posts anubis is the one who is really really loyal to sony, however all i see is this talk about graphics. it dies in one thread only to start in another. blah blah blah graphics. unified pipeline smipelines. ok lemme stop with the nursery nonesense. ermm so since they are working on 100gb blu ray i guess that doesnt mean squat either eh. yea so maybe it will only take 1 ps3 b/r disc and when ported to 360 it will take 10/11 discs, i mean that doesnt interrupt gameplay at all, like say if you want to go to a past world you would have to keep switching discs. i mean in an rpg where you travel back and forth that wont interrupt gameplay at all. is that what you are saying. but you kno what, even the b/r talk doesnt mean nothing to me. and all this graphic smaphic talking for what? whether you are talking about cars or consoles you are going to have a hard time fighting for us products when they are pitted against jap products, whether it be ford vs toyota or 360 vs [bold]PS3[/bold].. 360 is showcasing power, and not quality. which worked for xbox for a bit, but the novelty wears off when the quality of games isnt there to back it up. which is why i bought my xbox and put it right back down after i couldnt find any good games past ngaiden, splinter, halo, call of duty and a like 2 other games as opposed to my 50+ quality game collection for psp. i often read this nonsense and don't respond to it cause its pointless, ill make a point and no one will answer it, they'll just beat around it. i laughed cause in another thread someone was saying omg if we get gta on 360 that would be great, or if xbox gets an exclusive gta it will be good lol. gta blew up on what system? yup thx xbox sales saw a surge when what game was ported to xbox, gta. yea thx. if ps2 keeps their titles and ms keeps theirs who will undoubtly win.. of course we kno... why i bring this point up, the gameplay in gta lc was revolutionary and was imitated thousands of times after but never duplicated, and gta is right up there with the live and madden franchises as best selling for ps2, and ms even after 2 years sought after the game to be released on the box so they could see some light. the fact stands that after you have the wow effect of graphics nine out of ten gamers will go back to whats really important which is gameplay. and until 360 pulls out pristine games, they will see the same fate as xbox.
Good post. I feel the same way. If you want short and simple and straight to the point. The graphics dont matter b.c there probably wont be that much diff in capabilities. Now lets be real. It wouldnot take to much space to list all the quality games microsoft has had in the past but i dont think we want to start naming great quality that sony has had in the past. That would take too long. Microsoft has not had in the past nor will have in the future as the ps3 is released, as may quality games to match up with the ps3 lineup of games. They have to show me that they can pump out those great games once the ps3 has been released and both are on the market b.c their past performance is not up to par. Just have to wait and see what sony releases for the ps3 and what microsoft has in their bag of games to know anything for sure though.
Dude, have you seen the launch titles for the ps3?Garbage, doesnt even have madden which is the number 1 selling sports game in the America.The 360's launch was equally weak if not weaker i must admit. Madden for the 360 was fun for people whjo like playing others and not for much else.Granted sony may win because they will win the japanese support but i dont care what games come out in Japan...do i play them.. I know your thinking that determines the success of a console and your probably right but i doubt microsoft will go bankrupt or stop making good games if they come in2nd in the next gen war. Sony may have had better games in the beggining but microsoft is doing a damn good job at signing game developing companies to work on exclusives for the 360.Sony fans will lap up the ps3 no matter how much it cost or how inferior it may turn out to be. Their loyalist who havent understood u cant marry a console. There's now talk that the ps3 may be delayed even further becasue sony is still bidding on components for the system and that the shell for the system is 50 percent too small for the components. Dont know how much truth is too that but its on sony sites and also on gamepro. Ne way sony is keeping it all so hush hush. Realize this, the ps3 is just a disguise to help promote blu-ray,if blu-ray fails then sony will go under and for all you fanboys so will the psblank series. Now if the 360 fails, wow they come in second and are still filthy rich. Microsoft loses $100 every system they sell, so to make up for that loss they had to seel 4 games per console they sell. They are currently selling 4.3 games per system. So the games they have out must not be that bad... sony on the othere hand will be likely losing $200 per system and must sell 8 games per system, tough row ahead.blu- ra wont be big for atleast another yr being that they wont have players out until late this yr and movies wont be rolling out in a big way til next yr. good luck fanboys, im sticking with my 360, my girl is getting the revolution. No sony here, remember its a console not a woman, buy the best console for the best price. their wont be a worth enough of a difference to spend the extra money. ur paying extra for a high def dvd player which has no affect on the quality of the game whatsoever.
this website might help you in understanding the size of the discs isn treally going to matter just yet. The dvds being used havent ubeen used to their max and they've been out for qwuite some time and it seems all that extra space for the ps3 games wont be harnessed in ne positive way either. http://www.gamesfirst.com/?id=1132
First, the launch titles are not the most important factor when looking at a system, might be a lot smarter to also look down the road a little bit. I was actuallu speaking of the systems both being released and being on the market for a time period to mature, maybe a year. Second, Madden will always be released for all of the major consoles so that really is not a valid point. Third, if blue ray does fail who really cares. Fourth, Sony wouldnot go under if BRay failed. As long as the PS3 sales they will be fine. The video gaming industry has brought them more money lately than anything else. It is their bread and butter. Fifth, real gamers dont buy a console based off the best price. It you got the money, you see a better lineup of games on one side and you want it, then most people are going to get the system they want eventually regardless of the price. Yeah you are right MS will never go broke and i understand what you are saying about them signing more developer for exclusives but there is a diff in talking about good exclusives and actually getting them out for people to play. You have to wait and see what each company will have released to actually judge their lineup of games for the new system plus both have to be on the market. But if we look at their past track record, sony had the most quality exclusives with no need to even waste time attempting to compare with microsoft number of quality exclusives. Also let me bring up an important point that most forget is a benefit of Blueray over Dvd. A way to play backups on the Xbox 360 was under way just as soon as people could get their hands on the system. We all know DVD are easy to burn nowdays but with the games on Blue ray ,they will be harder to crack and burn. And you have to take into factor that how many people will have a BRay burner with the technology being so new. Just Looking at the price of a BRay player we know the burners will be priced extremely high. That is one benefit I see.
to respond to that hott garbage i just read. I didnt state launch titles are all that i just stated a fact that sonys sucked. Next blu-ray will be carcked just like everything elese has been to this point so nice try with that.parents buy the general portion of consoles not kids buddy. kids who play consoles more than anyone else buy consoles. kids dont have jobs so parents dont want to spend all that money on a MINOR uprgrade if and upgrade is what u want to call it.True older people are starting to make a big portion of gaming but people even said the 360 was too expensive, not every body has the money is the point you so easily missed.Microsoft will save tons of money by using the cheaper dvd format, granted it will be cracked. Blu-ray will also be cracked and sony will spend plenty of money on fundig the "if you got money then blow if" movement. When a company is firing its own asscoiates as i said before for givin its own product a bad review that not saying too much.blu-ray will only be utilized for movies.system is said to hard to develop games for unlike ms
i wonder why it was logged in uner my second account.. i thought i posted under this one. oh well. the unified achitechture and memory are great yes, but it does not mean that the fill rates are better, the memory spead is better, the resolution is surely not better, and the graphical rendering of textures may not be as detailed but only refined. if im not mistaken, sure the 360 has more pipes, 48 to be exact. the ps3 has 24 pipes. at first glace you would think the 360 would dominate. but its where the efficeincy of the 2 come into play. the 360 with its 48 pipes does 94 operations per clock (48x2), yet the ps3 has only 24 and does 134.4 operations per clock (24x5.6). this means the ps3 will have a much larger fill rate, and a quicker time rendering. the ps3 will excell with load times both graphically and during load screens. it will also well take advantage of the unreal engines seemless method of creating at endless level by constantly loading parts onto the map to create the largest world you could ever imagine with no load screens. in graphical detail, the 360 will be close to the ps3, but the ps3 will take the lead, and its load and fill times will be well less than the 360. not all of sonys suck. look at ut2007, killzone, and mgs4 as some examples. madden 06 for 360, you cannot tell me this is a good game. sure it looks nice, but it lost all of the cool features it had for it like franchise and nfl superstar. the one for xbox was better. oh but funny thing, all the games that had been ported from xbox to 360, the xbox versions dont seem to run on the 360, yet other games do. smell a fish here anyone?
You def seem pretty good at the tech mumbo jumbo but i try not too get into a whole lot of that because for every guy like you who rmables of specs and etc. their is a guy who will claim the exact opposite. Speak of the obvious facts is what i say, ps2 was slower than xbox, looked worse,had a worse online system. all facts not opinons. You can ramble on with all that nonsesne but in the end your just another fanboy. Your right not all sony sucks, just their customer service and product reliablity. Sony has a lot of good games but to me they are overshadowed by the poor system. As long as they have fans like you who are ready to take them to the alter they'll probably always dominate MS.im not sure why all these powerful specs mean nething its all about the games right? then sony fans shut it about the specs and MS fans stick to it. Thats what MS fans have cared about since day 1,speed,features,graphics and quality customer service. You can have your one or two better games than MS and ednjoy spending the extra money for an equal,inferior,minor upgrade...oh yeh thats right you dont know crap about what PS3 will be like you havent played it. sony is known for promising what they cant deliver. The fish you smell is coming from your babygirl(ps2).
whoa, ive missed sooo much. and its only been a day ive missed. nar the sony fanboys are biting back it seems. hmm.... graphics, gameplay, price, choise of games (linked to gameplay aswell), online service. these are the 5 powers that each console has. about power only: with *CURRENT NEW GEN* games the PS3 is more powerful. b/c it can handle single threaded code better due to the architecture of the hardware it has. however with *NEXT GEN* (like a year min), as developers start to utilise more threads of code and how to utilise the capabilities that hardware has, the 360 will overtake the PS3 in terms of power and visual enchancements (due to unified pipelines and the other 2 processor cores that currently arnt being used). even thou the PS3 is currently more powerful with single threaded games, it isnt by far. maybe something around 5-10% more powerful with single threaded games. thats computes to around 5FPS extra and the slightly better physics, *if* the developers make use of that, which only a few will likely do. (also taking into accound how computer cards advance and get FPS increases), so its pretty pawltry overall. and zelda, you tagged the rest perfectly agen. need i say anymore agen?
seems like all is irrelevant,games,graphics,speed,features etc. for every person who speaks technically their is someone debunking what that person is saying. 80% of gamers dont know the true in's and outs of the tech talk, specs and all that. It just comes down to loyality or preference. SO when i hear someone start rambling on, i truthfully dont know the difference who is right or wrong when it comes to those issues. I mean call me dumb,call me whatever you want but the techies battle it out with no victory in sight. bunch of he said she said to us laymans. Im for MS just because me and too many people i know got screwed by sony with the ps2 and everyone i know whos had xbox loves it with a passion. i like the 360 and think its graphically a nice system. As far as the next gen thing i dont think any of the two next gen consoles will meet up to the standards of what people are expecting. I think the 360 is great and a big improvement but im no fool, MS botched their launch something fierce. I believe if they hadnt sony would have no choice but to have launched in spring and wouldnt have been able to delay thier launch as they did.If sony stumbles whatsoever in november like MS did they will be done, too much of a head start will surely do them in.
the ps3 i think supports 2 threads, plus every spe runs ops like a thread would. you say ms fans looks for speed, but they dont get it. i think i said before, i was playing madden 06 for 360 and the load times were astronomical, and untill they get the cores working more (even tho that will bring a mild increase) they wont be near the ps3 in any way. the cell was designed for media and entertainment options, which if you look is what sony is aiming for "A complete entertainment center from one little box". the 360's processor is basically a decent pc processor. most games (basoically all) are not multithreaded, and wont be soon. the threads only increase processing speeds, not ram speeds or graphical output which the 360 will fall behind it. for things like multitasking the 360 might dominate, but how do you really multitask enuf in a console to need all those threads? and i dont feel like i got screwed by sony, the system played the games i wanted, and it had almost all the games i liked. sure it lacked a bit in the graphical depot, but im not about to drop 300 on a new console that looks somewhat better and has fewer games that i like, and most will have been on ps2 anyways. if ps3 comes out and starts to fall behind 360, ill sell it and get one. i was a poor kid during the past gen wars (only in middle school) so i couldnt get it all. now i have a chance since i get money now.
You must be the one and only experiencing slow load times on madden cause thats a first on me, the cell is said by its on people making the system hards as shat to develop games for. go ahead and blow you money on upgrades not noticeable to the naked eye
your contradicting logic pal, you said u werent going to spend money on a graphical update or some trash like that. thats what ur doing with the ps3 wiseguy
no, when i was younger i didnt have a job. i do now, and i make money now. im also gunna get a pc on roids soon. both systems came out when i was in middle school as i said, so what little money i could get or squeez out of my mom was spent on games or other things i accually needed. i never really got into these wars till now.
