Ps3 YLoD Attempted fix's. Any more ideas?

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  1. WallyHale

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    Glad to hear it! Good work on fixing it :)

    PS I didn't do much :p ntemis was the man!
     
  2. manugirl

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    no no no you both rock :) :) :)
     
  3. ntemis

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    Sorry to spoil your happiness but as5 dont work OK if put thick.
    You have to re-open ps3 and try thin layer or use other thermal paste.
    Dont leave it like this because you will have a ylod soon.
     
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    colinjest - thanks for all your work on the ylod but can't leave the donation link in your post so it's edited out. Now you could put it in your profile page since that is your page and has different rules.
     
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    Just an update for anyone interested. Since my YLOD on Madden Head Coach 09, I did another heat gun fix and had it working again but only for a few days this time before YLOD again. At this point, I'm about finished with this PS3 and possibly my other broken one as well.

    I believe some of these systems have board or possibly even chip issues that won't be able to be resolved without a reball or chip replacement or both. Not sure I have enough money or patience left at this point to continue trying to figure these things out. Is it even possible to buy replacement chips?

    If I do continue, I may look into a reball of one of these and see how long the system can go without YLOD after a reball. Might be a waste of the $99 bucks but the place that does it is local to me and honestly I'd feel better knowing one way or another if it is a perm fix or not. If it is, to me it would be worth it to have a good working backwards compatible PS3. If anyone has had one of these things reballed please share the results!
     
  6. manugirl

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    hi ntemis, it defo works for now so im gonna stay of it till next week, put the extra money to it and exchange it for a 250 slim, i know a shop near me that are giving £140 for the 60GB, good times, then all my troubles are gone. happy happy happy. thanks clare xx
     
  7. WallyHale

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    Yep .. get rid of it while it's working as it sounds like a temporary fix sadly.

    I did the same .. have had the PS3 slim with a 320GB hdd in it for a fair while now. So much quieter and nicer :) I never used Linux (now removed with firmware update anyway I think) or backward compatibility (who wants to play PS2 games :p ) so yeah .. win!
     
  8. twinrotor

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    I'd like to thank all you guys that have tried this "re-balling" technique. A 40GB PS3 in YLOD condition was given to me. After research, it seems that Sony only recommends IR to reheat the chips. I'm not sure if thats correct info or not, but I give props to GILKSY and all the other guys and gals who have used a heat gun! It works!

    My system had been tinkered with. It had no hard drive and the cover had been removed. Fortunately, thats about as far as they went. The original thermal compound made me believe that I was going to pull the chips off the board. It was extremely dry and of lithium composition(or whatever the white crap is). Used alcohol to clean the chips and all surrounding thermal pads.

    Using a similar technique as GILKSY with a heat gun, I circled the chips about 10 minutes a side at 375C. I also preheated the board, as it gave me more piece of mind about the board warping. Cool down took about 20 minutes, to where the board and chips were cool.

    Out came the Artic Silver 5 and a credit card. Used a recommended layer of the good stuff and reassembled, minus the top cover. It takes a bit of caution and patients to get the heatsink/fan plate to sit on the chips without smearing compound. So be careful! I also bent the retainer clips a bit.

    So far, 12 hours and counting :) I slipped in a 120GB drive I had kick'n around and plugged in the controller. It was about 3 year dead, so I did the update biting nails! I don't have any games, so I downloaded about 10 GB worth of demos last night.

    Thanks again GILKSY and everyone else who contributed to this thread! I got a free PS3! :)
     
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    Only my bloody PS3 didnt work, to be honest it worked but just for 5 mins, My bad luck........ i will try with flux next time and add some washers to see if something changes.
     
  10. colinjest

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    cheers but for the record its

    GILKSY not gil sky
     
  11. twinrotor

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    Sorry! Fixed that typo..

    Over 24 hours of downloading/gaming; no glitches. I still haven't tried a disc other than a regular DVD. Its not backward compatible, as I hoped(I have about 30 PS2 disc). So I think I'll run out to my buddies house, who just sent his PS3 back to Sony for the 4th time(under warranty), and grab a game or two.

    The first three returns were for YLOD. Now his won't read any disc. Was fine one day, next day it won't even read a CD.
     
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    Chawlie14 - no free advertising or emails allowed so post edited.
    If you want to advertise your service then click on the 'contact our media sales team' link at the bottom of the page.
     
  14. danuk76

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    60gb launch model - green, yellow, 3 beeps then flashing red.

    Got my Ps3 in bits and waiting for my flux and paste off the bay.

    Just wondering if there is a breakdown of what the flashing lights means, as I dont want to reflow both RSX and Cell bga's, if only one is the problem.

    Has anyone narrowed down which is more likely the cause.

    I would also say if you have fat ps3, strip it down, clear out the dust and renew the paste as it wont last much longer.
     
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    Yesterday I did a 2nd reflow to my ps3.
    First time the PS3 lasted only for 5 mins more or less.

    This time is up for about 5-6 hours running folding@home and all goes well.

    What i did different this time is that i pre-heated the mobo really well, and i heated both chips from both sides with one move from a longer distance (about 30cm) but for more time and i gave each side an hour to cool down.

    got all back together, Power On i've adjusted time and date, and i've turned it off again.

    i did something that i think that i've reed it here , not sure though...i just remember that has something to do with the thermal paste.
    On for 5'-off for 30'
    On for 10'-off for 45'
    On for 15'-off for 60'
    .....then i updated the FW and backed up my saves and i've let it off for the night.

    Now is almost completing 6 hours of folding@home and its still alive.
    ....I have the air condition on though.....
     
  16. twinrotor

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    I preheated my mother board as well. Hoping to lessen the chance of warping. I think it worked :)

    As far as your "compound break in method", if you used any of Artic Silver's products, "Arctic Silver 5 does not contain any silicone. The suspension fluid is a proprietary mixture of advanced polysynthetic oils that work together to provide three distinctive functional phases. As it comes from the tube, Arctic Silver 5's consistency is engineered for easy application. During the CPU's initial use, the compound thins out to enhance the filling of the microscopic valleys and ensure the best physical contact between the heatsink and the CPU core. Then the compound thickens slightly over the next 50 to 200 hours of use to its final consistency designed for long-term stability.(This should not be confused with conventional phase change pads that are pre-attached to many heatsinks. Those pads melt each time they get hot then re-solidify when they cool. The viscosity changes that Arctic Silver 5 goes through are much more subtle and ultimately much more effective.)"

    The other compounds they produce have similar "set" rates, except the epoxy.

    So far, my first reflow has lasted 14 days. Mostly playing BF:BC2. We also use it as a Netflix streamer and DVD player with 0 problems :)

    My friend received another YLOD unit yesterday; will post results here when reflowed..
     
  17. SDF_GR

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    thanks for the infos about the thermal past, much appreciated.

    I've used Artic Silver Ceramique, any thoughts??

    I've played so far to test it GOW3, GT Prologue, Resident Evil 5 about an hour or two each and so far all goes well and i hope it will keep that way.

    Good Luck with your PS3 and your friends, hope all goes well for you also.

    Something else that i may be wrong but i thing its worth mentioning

    I've noticed something and IMO that is the source of the problem in 1st place...
    After the 2nd reflow i didnt put back the upper cover, and for starts the PS3 even after straight 8 hours of F@H didn't made any noise after shutting it down, you know the cracking noise....and that got my attention.

    Have you ever touched the PSU while the PS3 is working to see in what temperatures this thing works??? it is xtreme hot!
    The cracking noise comes from the upper cover cause the PSU.

    From what i've seen this days the part that causes the YLOD is the CPU.
    The CPU have the xtreme hot PSU just above it and it is also right next to the HDD that is another heat source.

    Just remove the screws from the PSU and turn on the PS3 for 10 mins without doing anything, turn it off and lift the PSU and the BD drive and touch the metal parts that holds the cooling system of CPU and GPU, the temperature difference between the CPU and GPU is astonishing.

    My thought is to buy a second PSU extend the cables, convert it to external, and put an horizon FAN in its place.
    I am pretty sure just without the PSU in it the fun will never go over level 2.
     
  18. hashbrown84

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    I had the same problem, I managed to remove the disc from the BDD using the old "holding the eject button trick" but it wouldn't stay on long enough to put it into recovery mode.
    In the end I searched about for a way to get it fixed, a few out there!!
    got it repaired by www.PS3ylod.co.uk had it back good as new in a week
     
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    Wasup everyone.
    As like many on here I have followed and read all 47 pages. I began to do research on the ylod death which lead me to this website full of information based on everybodys experience. I too took on the ylod death and manage to fix a 40gb ps3 that I bought off of ebay by following gilksy's guide. My regards to u Gilksy. The only thing I used different was thermal paste(Innovative cooling diamond). Once I got the ps3 to work, I played Modern Warefare for a straight week, 3-5hrs a day. I wanted to test out as long as possible to see if it would give me the ylod but it seemed like it was fine. After that week I sold it due to personal reasons. So far its been about six to seven months since then and havnt heard from the guy, so i'm guessing its still works but I'm still unsure about it.
    I would like to have someone try the Innovative Cooling Diamond thermal paste to see if im right and how long it'll last until the ylod pops back again,thxs.lmk something.

    Also I did a fix on a 360 and I liked how by letting the system over heat after u applied the new thermal compound and let it cool down it works back up again. As for the ps3 u have to use the heat gun, wait, then apply the thermal paste and then turn it to see if its fixed. I was thinking if only u could do that with the ps3, damn.lol.

    Another thing I was thinkin about for those that like the fat ps3's, to buy a slim and move its internal to fats case but the only issue with that is its to small unless u find way to make it work.
     
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