Quality loss problems with dvd shrink.

I'll toss in my experience with DVDXcopy vs DVDShrink. I ran a test backing up The Itlalian Job (new version) on a cheap Khypermedia DVD-R with both programs. The first one was done with DVDXcopy and although pretty quick (approx 30 min), the movie was pixelated and hung up in the middle. This is obviously with only the feature movie burned since Xcopy Express doesn't allow anything more. Then I burned a copy of the same movie using DVDShrink, removed languages other than English and kept trailers, menus, extra scenes and all of the extra features. The burn took longer (approx 50 minutes total), but the quality was perfect, it burned to one DVD-R disc and I'm able to use all menus and extra features on the disc. There wasn't a single incident of pixelation or hang-ups.

I think you simply need to try them all and decide which one works best on your machine, fits your personal criteria and/or wallet. My 2 cents.

 

Hmmm... using 3.1.2 can't find where the temp files are and I don't see the location listed in Preferences. (?????)

 

They've been moved to:

"C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\DVD Shrink"

Also, v3.0b5 and v3.1.2 files are compatible, so you can copy the content of the v3.0b5 analysis folder to the v3.1.x one.

P.S: apparently this compatibility feature introduced in v3.1.2 does not seem to be working.
http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=139459#post139459
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Thanks for sending me the link to the CD Freak test, MysticE.

http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/114/2

However, it was made in July 2003 with DVD Shrink v2.3.

 

here is a more recent comparison: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/57229

xcopy was not included in the mix.

 

They are also using the older InstantCopy 7.

 

Has there been a noticeable quality increase between backups made with IC8 and those made with IC7?

 

I don't know what the hell is going on here, but how are you guys getting 50-60 minutes just in the dvd shrink phase? Are you compressing the whole disk by 50% and then deep analyzing? When dvd shrink is finished it tells you how long it took, and with an uncompressed image of 4.4 gb it will do it as fast as your drive will allow data transfer...

Why you'd compress the whole disk using any of these programs is beyond me anyway, thus making that test you're talking about Mystice an invalid point for me, compression of anythting equals deteriation in quality, i don't care how good the compression technique is, you want good quality don't compress it or go with tmpgenc.

15 minutes at the most in dvd shrink uncompressed with my lg dvd reader, and it takes less than 15 minutes to burn to a disk using record now dx and my pioneer 106.

As I have mentioned before, i only want the movie in my backups, and get rid of all superfluous audio and video streams, even the credits if i have to compress it at all.

Bailey

 

DDlooping considering how much dvd shrink's compression quality changed during 2.3 and 3.0 beta 5 it wouldn't surprise me if ic7 is a lot inferior to ic8, but a more recent test would be greatly appreciated anyone??

Bailey

 

My last shrink copy took 104 minutes with almost no compression. That was all inclusive with burn. It was just about 4.3 gigs on the disk. That included time to copy from the original to the HD and then burn on a 2.4x RW disk. If it would support DVD to DVD on the fly burning it would be really sweet!

Great product! I feel bad that it is free. Any place I can donate money via PayPal?

 

to remove the 321 disclaimer is easy with ifoedit95(free). 1 min of editing and its gone. you can make it go to the main movie only or jump to the menu. if you want instructions, ill post them

 

hey dude what's up!!!! give me the info on how to remove that stupid ass 3.2.1 studios disclaimer!! I would greatly appreciate it.

 

I have read many things in this post and I would like to clear the area a little bit.
DVD Shrink is not recommended for long movies (more that 2hrs) because it uses high compression and the result will be much worse that using DVDXCopy-Platinum or DVD2One. DVD Shrink is great though for DVDs that contain TITLES such as series (Friends, The Simpsons etc), which DVD2One cannot process.
If your movie is more that 2hrs try DVD-Decrypter to remove the Macrovision, DVD2one to remove unwanted sudio and subtitles and any burner you wish to burn your movie.
For movies less than 100 minutes use DVD-shrink for both Macrovision removal and compression and then burn it with any burner program u wish.
Finally DVDXCopy-Platinum is the best program to do both works but is not very user friendly and it is very expensive to buy.
Hope I was helpfull.

 

And I would like to correct your clarification.

The lenght of a movie has nothing to do with the resulting quality when using DVD Shrink.
I have seen movies longer than 2 hours being DVD5 ("Jerry Maguire" comes to mind), hence no compression was neccessary.

What ultimately matters is the compression required and the quality of the original DVD.

Karateka , I'd suggest you make a test with a DVD needing 25% compression or more, with DVD Shrink v3.0b5 using Deep Analysis, the latest version of DVD2One and DVDXCopy (any version).
Let us know your findings.
Full-disk or movie-only, your choice.

 

I also agree with you that no compression will needed if you remove unwanted audio and subtitles at DVD Shrink. But if you want to make an exact copy with full menus, audio and subtitles there will be compression for sure.

 

removing the warning is simple

run the program and let it copy. When it's finished copying and asks for a blank dvd , pull out the original dvd and just press CTRl+ALT+DEL and "end task" . This will leave your Temp folder intact and accessible it will be called dvd xpress2.5 ( i think)

Rename the folder to the name of the movie ex: scorpion king etc. If you don't , the next time you run dvdxcopy xpress, it will overwrite the folder.

Go to the "VIDEO_TS FOLDER AND DBL CLICK ON VIDEO_TS.IFO file.(better install ifoedit96)
THEN double click VMGM_MAT in the top window and click once on "First Play PGC"

slide the bar in the bottom window towards the bottom and you will see the PGC Command Table near the bottom

look for the "1.Pre command" and right click it and then choose Edit Command

In the Command: option select (Jump_TT)Jump to Title (near the top in the scroll bar)
and in the Title Nr: just select 1

click Save and overwrite the BUP as well

now just use any software burning program and burn away . I use "copy to dvd"(very clean program

 

REMOVING THE FBI WARNING

1 Using [bold]IFOedit[/bold], open the [bold]VIDEO_TS.IFO[/bold] file
2 In the [bold]upper[/bold] window double click on [bold]VMGM_MAT[/bold] which will open the sub-folder [bold]First Play PGC[/bold]
3 Highlight [bold]First Play PGC[/bold], which will open a list called [bold]PBC (program chain)[/bold] in the [bold]lower[/bold] window.
4 In the [bold]PBC (program chain)[/bold] window scroll down to near the bottom and find the [bold]PGC Command Table[/bold]
5 In the [bold]PGC Command Table[/bold] find: [bold]1.Pre command[/bold], right click on it and choose [bold]Edit Command[/bold]
6 The [bold]Command Change[/bold] window will open
7 In the [bold]Command[/bold] drop down menu, select [bold](JumpSS_VMGM)Jump to VideoManager Menu[/bold]
8 In the [bold]Menu[/bold] drop down box select [bold]Title-Menu[/bold]. Click [bold]OK[/bold] to save both commands
9 Click [bold]Save[/bold] at the bottom of IFOedit to save the revised [bold]VIDEO_TS.IFO[/bold] file.
10 When prompted to overwrite the [bold].BUP[/bold] file say [bold]Yes[/bold]
11 When you close IFOedit it may ask if you want to close without saving.
Since the new .IFO was already saved the click [bold]Yes[/bold] (close without saving)

The post by [bold]oldhack[/bold] on 1/19/04 suggested selecting [bold](Jump_TT)Jump to Title[/bold] in the [bold]Command[/bold] drop down menu. It worked some of the time but usually caused the disc to skip the main menu and go straight to the main program, making any ‘extras’ inaccessible. Selecting [bold](JumpSS_VMGM)Jump to VideoManager Menu[/bold] instead went to the main menu every time. Thanks to [bold]oldhack[/bold], most of the above was his-extremely simple and elegant solution.
IFOedit 0.95 was used; DVDShrink 3.16 generated the VIDEO_TS.IFO; DVD’s were made with CloneDVD 1.2.8.4