First of all i would like to thank whoever is reading my thread. Thank for bearing the newbie.I have a pretty vast collection of dvds, would like to make backups of my dvds but don't want to loose quality. I have a HD convert player and a 50 in tv,i have noticed a bit of choppy picture with the 4.7 gb dvd's. Now my question is will i gain quality like the original dvd if i used a dual layer format. I am using x copy by the way.thanks
yes you will gain quality but I'd recommend using DVD Decrypter to rip and burn. Choose Mode/ISO/Read, read the original disc, then put in blank, choose Mode/ISO/Write find your MDS file and keep burn speeds 4x or lower.
That Choppyness you Notice probably has Nothing to Do with the Quality of the Image, it sounds More Like Burn errors on the DVD Disk which is quite Common when useing Burned DVD Media especially Cheap Media...I get that effect on about 10% of all the DVD"s I burn because of Burn errors on Bad Media... You can usually avoid this Effect just by Burning at a Lower Speed .. If you do a 1:1 Copy of a Retail DVD to a Dual layered DVD then the Duplication will be 100% exactly the same as the Original in Every way.... You don"t even need to use a DVD Copy program when doing a 1:1 Copy of a DVD all you do is use a Freeware Program Like "DVD Decryptor" to Rip the DVD in File Mode or ISO Mode and then use any Burning Program to Burn the Ripped DVD to DVD-DL..... With Most Movies after dropping the Extra Audio Tracks and the Special features the Movie is usually pretty close to 4.38gb so the Quality differance should be from 0% to Negligable because if the File is under 4.38gb after removeing the Extra Audio and special Features then there is No Compression needed which means there is absolutly No Quality Loss.... I am able to Get 2 Movies on a 4.38gb DVD-R without any signifigant Differance in the Quality but I use a rather Complicated Method but it works for me and My TV Set is only a 32 inch so I don"t notice the Artifacts you would if watching on a Big screen TV.... Cheers
Awsome answers guys i really apreciate the responses. Now i have one more question, what program to rip it to dvd? will nero work?
What program to rip the DVD? I use dvd decrypter, minion may use something else but there are a bunch of programs out there, Decrypter being the best IMO.
Nero can be made to work with dual layer burns, but it can also be confusing, depending on how you ripped it, and what software you were using when you ripped. If you are just trying to do a one-to-one complete backup of a dual-layer DVD to a dual-layer blank, and you want an identical exact copy, by far the safest and easiest method is as follows: -Use good media (Verbatim, for dual layer, is the winner in this regard); -Use DVDDecrypter. First, use DVDDecrypter to rip. Go to the Mode menu, and select "ISO Read R." Rip the entire contents to your hard drive in ISO mode, and note the location where it is being ripped. -Use DVDDecrypter to burn. Go back to that Mode menu, and this time select "ISO Write W." Now, browse and navigate to the folder where you stored the rip, and choose the file with the ".MDS" extension. -Done. Your quality will be every bit as good as the original was. The method above should work for almost every DVD currently in existance, although this is bound to change when Sony / Columbia begins to release newer variations on their Sony ArCCos copy protection. DVDDecrypter will handle pretty much every one that is out there now, but Sony keeps changing the scheme, and DVDecrypter will no longer be updated to handle the "next" change. And, regarding your original post that started this thread I would mildly disagree with one of the responses above, only in that it might have been a bit incomplete. Yes, sometimes a "choppy picture" is due to lousy media, or a poor quality burn, as one answer suggests. But, sometimes, it is also due to too much compression. The term "choppy" is a little bit vague, here, and it would help to know exactly what you see when this "choppiness" occurs. Would you describe it as "pixellization," where you can visibly see the individual pixels which make up a frame of video, and those pixels seem to be breaking up? Or, would you describe it as a "frame jump," where the picture seems to be "jumping" from one frame to another? Or, is it a stuttering or lockup problem? The cheap media problems occur most often at the very ends of a burn (which may or may not be the end of a movie, due to all of the extras, etc.) Sometimes, in those cases, yes, it is cheap media, where the dye used in manufacturing was substandard, or it was not properly sealed at the outer edge of the disc, and is actually "running" at the very end. If the choppiness is pixellization, it is more likely to be too much compression. If it occurs at randome spots throughout a disc, this is another clue that it might be too much compression. -Bruce
Well thanks again for the responses guys. I followed the procedure as you mentioned, now i have one more problem. The dvd won't play,i first tried it on a cheapo dvd player, it played just fine. Now when i went put it into my expensive samsung up convert player it won't recognize it. Is there something i did wrong? is there an extra step i can take? And to answer your question about the "choppyness", it is alot like pixelization, it does not jump frames or scenes. again thanks for the answers guys. Oh and one more thing guys, i uses a Memorex DVD dual layer, now i am reading some htreads that say thats the worst brand to use.
lol, yeah Memorex sucks big time. Compatibility between DL DVDR and standalone players is pretty low, last I heard it was like 2/3 or something like that. May have gone up, but still not high enough for me to start using them. Some burners have the ability to booktype to DVD-ROM, this should increase the compatibility. You should see an icon on the bottom right in Decrypter in ISO Write mode. Not sure how to do it in Nero, but I believe it is possible.
