Questions About Using divxtodvd with NERO Vision Express

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  1. TedDavid

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    I'm a newbie to the world of video DVD creation. Last week, I faced about 37 hours to transcode 45 minutes of .avi files (around 8GB) across to Mpeg-2, using NVE's 2-pass coder. At the time I thought that was extraordinarily slow, but after reading a number of threads in this forum (that's how new I am at all this: I just discovered the forum last week) its seems its not. I've been reading a lot about divxtodvd being a much more efficient transcoder.

    Here's what I am trying to do. I have live music performances of my band on DV camcorder. I've already captured them to .avi, dividing them into rough chapters, imported them into a movie, trimmed the video, added effects and text and created menus. So, I'm getting ready to transcode (want to put on hard disk so its available to make copies later) and save. I'm thinking that, if I could use the divxtodvd transcoder, it might save time. But, (1) could I import the mpeg-2 files into the NVE movie saving all my menu and text work? (2) Since mpeg and .avi are vastly different size formats, would the timeline of the imported mpeg align with what was there as an avi so I don't have to redo the text, menus and effects? (3) Can I trim that video like I did the .avi files?

    In short, now that I've spend so much time in NERO, what's the most expedient way to finish what I need to do?

    Ted
     
  2. Rotary

    Rotary Senior member

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    hi there

    nero visionexpress even on 2 pass aint the best app/quailty

    speed though seems wayyyyyyyyyy to loooooonggggggg!!! what are your computer specs?

    when you capture to DVcamcorder doea it make the AVI? and what app made the menus/effects? and is it still avi then?

    1) could I import the mpeg-2 files into the NVE movie saving all my menu and text work?

    not sure on this, you will need to try it ans see...

    (2) Since mpeg and .avi are vastly different size formats, would the timeline of the imported mpeg align with what was there as an avi so I don't have to redo the text, menus and effects?

    usualy it works out ok on a mivie only, sometimes it cocks up but with menus and transitions i have no idea?

    (3) Can I trim that video like I did the .avi files

    not sure what you want here?
     
  3. TedDavid

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    Rotary,

    My machine is OOOOOLD! (700 MHz Pentium III, 512MB RAM, 40 + 180 GB Hard Drives, Memorex DVD16+/-DL4RWID2 burner, Nero Vision Express 2 Version: 2.1.2.21.)

    I captured via iLink into .avi files, which I then used to start building the movie. Built menus, etc. all using NVE.

    Since divxtodvd is advertised as being so much faster than NERO, thought I'd try it for the transcoding. But the original .avi files I imported are still intact with no trimming. So, I either have to trim them externally or in NVE. That's that question -- assuming I could even import the mpeg-2 into NVE. There are no transitions, merely chapters with a menu for playing each chapter. All I'm trying to do is to get a demo out to booking agencies. I have thought about simply burning the audio to CD, but since the recording is live and not studio quality, I feel that seeing the dancers and audience reaction makes all the difference. Having a videographer shoot a pro DVD is down the line, once gigs start rolling in and we can afford that.

    Ted
     
  4. Rotary

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    hi

    nero will make the chapter pionts and menu...it will take mpeg2 aswell

    tmpgenc dvd author will take mpeg2 and make menu and chapters

    are the avi in many parts or just 1 avi with lots of bits init? meaning you need to link to say 1 or 2 parts via this menu you need?

    divxtodvd will take avi or mpeg and make vob/ifo/bup for burning to dvdr

    i need an idea how many menu links you need in this film? i can get your avi or mpeg to dvdr no problem for you, and guide you on it, its these extra links i need more info on...

    these chapters you need are they at certain pionts or random? as nero will make chapter pionts!

    ok, if you want to go from avi to vob/ifo/bup (a dvd) and have chapters placed in a 5 min intervals, use avi2dvd its a free app, it yields the best quailty compared to ones mentioned above, use HNEnc encoder with that app. then load to tmpgenc dvd author and make the menu off those chapters, but as its 8 gig of avi it will take ages so the fastest route is to use divxtodvd which output vob/ifo/bup...

    i didnt realize before but the time span is right as you have 8gig of avi most dvd films are 700meg x2 so it will take ages to complete...

     
  5. TedDavid

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    Hello again, Rotary

    (Aside) Have you ever heard the group "Rotary Connection" from the '60s and '70s. HAd Minnie Ripperton as one of the lead vocalists. Pretty incredible if you're into that era.

    Anyway, back on topic. When I captured the .avi, I started and stopped the capture coinciding with the start and stop of our song performances, so that the chapters would begin where I wanted them. Some are in a single .avi, some span two. It was no problem deleting the extra chapter marks in Nero for those with multiple .avis, and the result plays fine (beginning to end of each song). I didn't use any transitions because, they people I will be sending the DVDs to will want to play some segment (maybe all) of each song to see what we are about. Then play the next, etc. So, I have ten songs on the DVD and ten chapter links. That's it. The only effects I used were gamma correction because the venue was fairly dark. The chapter text that play in the movie are simple fly-ins with song titles. Pretty simple concept, but an extended movie.

    Anyway, my original question was: Can I do anything to speed the transcoding up by taking the .avis on my hard drive, transcode them, reimport them into NVE (so as not to lose all my menu and titling work) and retrim the transcoded video (.vob) inside of NVE. If not, I guess I'll bite the bullet and put my computer to work for 48 hours or so to do the transcoding with NVE. At this point, all I'm really interested in is getting the demo DVD made so I can get some festival, etc. work this summer for my band. I'm not a videographer, I'm a musician, and this is just a tool to promote what I do.
     
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    hi all

    My name rotary came about when i first started useing computers and used to live on the website www.overclockers.com that is where i learnt how to overclock pcs / build pcs from the bios up so as to get to know all parts of pcs and what makes them tick so to speak, my name then was ROTARY-MOTION as in computer fans go round and partly to do with the rotary engine concept, and it tied in nicely with a phrase of what goes round comes round, it sort of covered alot of thing in life at the time, but as many names get shortened these days to a nick name or shorter version (easier to type to - hehe) it ended up as Rotary, so not the 60 / 70 era although i do like the music as i very much like varied sounds right across the board...

    ok, now back to the issue here, i would try using divxtodvd it is quick and just see it it will keep the chapters etc? can but try...

    if you have 10 avi convert them separately to vob/ifo/bup then load the 10 into nero see how it goes maybe...

    basically all i can say is try the apps....
     
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    Can someone help me? I wanted to burn some my home videos (AVI's) to DVD. I went out and got Nero 6, some other programs that convert and it all worked. I was able to do all the VIDEO_TS and all that fun stuff and make my first DVD. YEA!!!! Here is where I need help: I want to put more than one of my videos on a DVD and have a menu at the begining to prompt which video to go to. I read some threads and Nero Vision Express sounded like where it was at. Went and got that. After install, I tried it and got an error message. "In order to start a DVD VR progect, you must first insert the appropiate disc into your disc drive." I have a blank DVD in the drive and I have tried the DVD I just made with one video on it. What more do they want? Plus my only choice for burning a DVD on Vision Express is to "Record directly to DVD". Is there some other setting. I am reading good and bad things about Nero all over. Should I scrap Nero all together and use something else? Help please.

    Fred
     
  9. TedDavid

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    Fred,

    In Nero Vision Express, click on the help button, and in the list look for "Adding videos stored on the hard disk". It is explained there. I think you need to burn to a Read-Write, so make sure you have them on hand first.

    Ted David
     
  10. blueye4u2

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    Ted, I have the right Vision Express, number 2. I dont understand why number 3 would not be a better version than 2, but oh well. I am trying to add my movies. I get an error again. This time is says, "The instruction at "0x00605842" referenced memory at "0x01523508". The memory could not be "read". Click on OK to terminate the program." Then the program closes. I try to add VOB files and it does nothing. This seems kind of silly because I am following the Adobe step-by-step page from Nero for Vision Express. I know it is not my memory that is messed up. Any ideas?

    Fred
     
  11. theridges

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    i have nero vision express 3 i think and it walks u through to make a dvd includes menu's and all
     
  12. TedDavid

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    Fred

    It sounds like NVE is crashing on you. But why are you adding VOBs? (unless you are reburning an existing DVD) Aren't you doing all the chapter and menu stuff inside NVE? I add either AVI or MPEG files and use NVE to do the rest. Granted it takes time to transcode. But I found the wait was worthwhile when I got the final product. I didn't burn it, I exported it to the hard drive. Now, when I want to burn a new copy it only takes about 15 minutes for a 1-hour movie.

    But back to your problem. If it crashes, there is a possibility that it was a bug that NERO has fixed and you can download an update. If NVE is working correctly, you should be able to find the help topic I mentioned earlier. That topic will instruct you on exactly what you're trying to do.

    Good luck,

    Ted David
     
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    I just reloaded NVE 2. I was able to make a DVD with a primative menu, but when it was done, it still did not play in my DVD player. I was only able to put two episodes on there any way, so I think I will just stick to putting one on there and using just plain old Nero 6. I have no problems converting to vob files using Boilsoft and then doing the authoring stuff with Ifoedit. A lot of steps with different software, but it works and I guess in the end, that is all that matters. Thanks for your help folks.

    Fred
     

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