Discussion in 'Windows - P2P software' started by rav009, Sep 17, 2006.
Thank you^ :-D
I'm still new enough to this stuff to be paranoid as hell. What is "HOSTS" ? Can it be used in concert with PG2 ? How is it updated ?
It can be used together, or you could import the lists from PG2 into the hosts file..
OK, a bit of explaining about HOSTS.
Every computer has a HOSTS file (yes, Win/MAC/Linux/Unix/FreeBSD all have it!!) and your computer can operate using DNS services or without. By default, Windows has a Service running called DNS Client. What that does is whenever you need to access a website, it will look to your ISP's server to see if a website exists. Complicated things follow, but I will spare you that.
By turning the DNS Client OFF, and instead using a HOSTS file, you can filter sites that you don't want from your computer.
I suggest you visit wikipedia or another site that explains it in simple terms. SCHOOL yourself. Because learning how HOSTS works, and using the right anti-spyware/firewall/anti-virus, you can be 99% more secure than the average Windoze user.
you can grab a custom HOSTS blocklist from either MVPS.org or BlueTack.co.uk. Both of them contain thousands of known spyware/adware/pr0n sites that you won't be connecting to by mistake anymore
@Rav009...very useful...easy to understand...and thorough...Nice Job...
hey guys, dunno if it's against forum policy to post a link like this on a thread, but it should concern A LOT of uTorrent users:
rav009, what's your assessment on all this? Do you think we're better off using another client?
i have one extra box to tick or not to tick. which is the safest way to set this up.
4. You can choose to tick the ‘Allow non-encrypted outgoing connections if encrypted connection attempt fails’ box.
This will ensure compatibility with clients that are not using encryption.
However, it makes it easier for your ISP to detect Bit Torrent traffic. Its recommend that you try to tick this box first. If you are still not getting proper speeds untick it.
why would i want to make it easier for my isp to detect my torrents
if i leave this Transport Encryption
box blank am i safer or more at risk of getting busted .. thanks
this sound stupid but I just wanna make sure. How do you download the lists manually? Do you just go to "List Manager" and just press add? Then what? I'll copy the url of the block site of Phoenix labs?
Just a quick one, which program is good to use to dl torrents? I use BitLord, could someone suggest a preferred program and why. Thanks heaps.
Azureus. Heavy on system resources but tons of features.
I do not recommend uTorrent because of a recent buy out by an MPAA henchman(to make a long story shot).
You may look into ABC though, but Azureus is more widely used and accepted especially in the private tracker community.
Thanks heaps for that Xplorer4. I heard Utorrent is good to use and Azures is to complicated but I'll dl Azures and see how that performs and keep my posts updated on the progress.
uTorrent is really GOOD! check out DVD's guide
I'm a bit skeptical about these tactics actually helping you much. Encryption prevents someone on your path listening in on what you're up to, ie your ISP. Which would be fine, except that's probably not how the authorities track p2p users - pinpointing each user individually and tracking them through ISP cooperation would be a monumental, impossible task. Much more logical is that they simply connect to the same downloads and just keep a list of all the peers providing them the data. Do this all the time, 24/7, at numerous sites, and they can quite quickly build a database of the top downloaders. You only need to track, say, 1000 or so of the most popular downloads (recent films, album releases, etc) to probably effectively track over 90% of everyone. Then just take the top users, send scary letters, confiscate computers, etc. Why get the ISP involved? It's just annoying paperwork and bad press.
As for IP filters (peer guardian, hosts file, firewalls, etc), I _really_ question the plausibility of people actually being able to figure out all, or even a small chunk of, the IPs used by the various authorities (MPAA, RIAA, BSA, police, etc). It's absolutely trivial to get a massive pool of IPs and use them totally randomly, and even to change them all at a moments notice, with even just a little cooperation from any ISP or IP registry. Hell, you don't even need their cooperation, and they don't even need to know what you're up to.
I'd guess these lists are mostly gathered from IP registries, dns records, whois, the occasional "informer" and such, which probably means everyone's filtering out the public corporate networks of various governmental organizations, RIAA, MPAA, etc. Call me crazy, but somehow I figure they'd use a dedicated network segment for the sniffing activities, one that isn't registered in any public database, or is registered under some bs name. Another simple alternative would be to use various hosting providers (you know, one of those 10,000 get-your-own-server-for-5-bucks-a-month companies) and just recycle them every month or two. This would allow you to get IPs from _anywhere_ in the world.
It's just so trivial, if you have any resources at all, to acquire completely random IPs, that only one or two network admins would need to even know about, that I would quite stunned if the police and other organizations didn't use such methods for their warez/kiddie porn/whatever tracking activities.
If nothing else, isn't it obvious that the authorities read these guides and would thus take the very simple measures required to render them invalid? They are people too, who know how to use the inntarnet, download warez in their private life, have children who download warez, work at companies that have network admins who know this stuff inside out, etc.
Besides simply living somewhere where downloading copyrighted material isn't illegal/punishable, or simply not downloading at all, I'd say your best bet to staying off the authority radar is to stick to older and less popular material.
first of all I apologize if I'm bumping a dead thread, I just found this on google
thank you very much for this guide, I got a few nasty letters from my ISP a while back
however, a friend of mine from work told me that downloading files to an external hard drive and keeping the hard drive disconnected when not downloading can keep me safe from my ISP. I'm pretty computer illiterate but I'm a bit skeptical about this because from what I understand my ISP can catch my IP uploading files even if it doesn't recognize the location and my coworker is a bit of a redneck, honestly
if anyone can confirm whether this will help at all I'd greatly appreciate it
No one said these methods were 100% and there not. There simply methods to help decrease your risk.
The biggest problem with PeerGaurdian and Protowall is they block IP addresses, rather then the host itself.
As for them having private access to the net not listed in any database, this is the MPAA here not a top secret government organization.
I just got back online after many years of not being here and with in 3 weeks i got a anail mail "ticket"from Charter saying i downloaded a file which i did but it wasn't the one i was looking for has the same name as this copywritten movie.besides the fact i hated all of these horror movies and when i found out it wasnt what i was seeking i deleted it.so fine all the cyber movie cops should be happy i deleted the file.but now after installing and running PG2 i am still worried about d/ling as they say they will kill my account and the movie ppl will toss me in jail.I now use a different P2P to try to D/load TV Shows (Limewire) which brings me to another point of confussion.I pay for my cable TV which Airs these shows on it and i can watch them but if i am at work and miss half of it it makes it hard to follow them so i can in the old days tape it on vcr and watch the whole thing when i get home.so... is it still wrong(in cybercops and ISP eyes) to dload these tv shows? didnt i allready pay some hollywood exec by my payment for my cable TV?
if i was you i wouldnt download anything for a long time.and try using torrent sites instead of limewire/frostwire.also even if you pay your cable bill those tv shows are copyrighted and are illegal to download.they have your number already so be cool for a while
thanx neptune but just to fill the puzzle in a little more.... all i was using was utorrent since i came back onversion 22.214.171.124(or what ever the most current version is and the tracker that i was on that the violation happened was piratebay.blabla.announce.one reason i mentioned limewire tho i hate it was during the same time my son in law on his lap top was using limewire to grab a whole bunch of movies plus complete sereies of scrubs dora and the OC and nothing was mentioned in the "ticket" so i guess i asked maybe to see if they only seen me cause torrrents are theway to go yet LW users dont get looked at that much or what?anyways i have stopped to the most extent just look for old stuff now nothing new and no movies so looks like my winter will be boring. thanx alot tho i am glad i found this site and hope to be here till they cut me off or i die with my cable modem in my hands. Bug
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