Real way to get Un-banned

brutal

 

Well, as I said before I don't have to make stuff like this up...what purpose would that serve? Anyways, I don't really care if I broke Microsofts TOS as they've been screwing enough people over with these faulty Xbox 360 consoles (including myself). "Malinki" you really need to stop acting like you're a saint and realize theres more horrible things going on in the world like people starving to death ( http://www.flatrock.org.nz/topics/odds_and_oddities/ultimate_in_unfair.htm ) other than some gamer who copys a game every now and then. I mean you act like I'm selling the games for profit!

I've bought plenty of 360 games and a couple of PS3 games because I really enjoyed them. I'm just saying most people including alot of college students pirate plenty of music so does that make them horrible people? I think people like you and the MPAA who try to equate music file SHARING etc. as stealing and consider it a horrible crime needs to get a life and revaluate what REAL crime actually is! I was joking obviously when I said "borrowing a copy." I should've known someone like you, that's incompetent would let that fly right over your head. Anyways, heres the letter they sent me...for your "PROOF."

http://img522.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xboxcustletter2fs8.jpg

 

that is probably someone elses who uploaded it on another forum i remember seeing it!

 

Where's it say that it's brand new?

I think they screwed you. You got a refurb. You should atleast open it up and see if they put in that new heatsink.

 

if they didn't then instead of a ban ur new friends gonna be 3rlod!!

 

Being a man fgamer I can fully admit i was wrong in some of my last statement and accept that you have recieved a 360 from M$ but my salient points still stand.

1.You broke the M$ TOS
2.You have fraudulently claimed a new 360
3.You've still pirated plenty of material
4.The thread title is utterly misleading

I'm not claiming to be "holier than thou" at all, I do my bit for the scene and the scene does its bit for me. I'm not against downloading or filesharing - I'm against blatant piracy, which, with your first statement of "borrowing a copy" (irrelevant of any hidden subtext you may claim was there) still leads me to think your a big pirate.

As for other problems in the world,I know what goes on in the real world, I've seen it. I'm more than aware of my own mortality and that of the human race. I realise that the world has bigger problems than one man trying to con M$ but if everyone had your attitude we'd be further up sh*t creek than we are now.

If everybody waits for somebody else to take a stand it will be too late! Its no excuse to say that somebody else would of done the samething.

At the end of the day, If you can live with yourself then Kudos to you and enjoy your xbox - just don't judge the rest of the world by your own immoral standards

 

"bhetrick" I didn't open it, as I'm using this solely as an Xbox Live console without playing backups on it, only originals (I don't want to take any chances on removing the sticker..just in case I'm not as lucky again).

Also, I took the side grill off and the new heatsink is inside, I flashed a flashlight through the metal holes on the side and I see the new smaller heatsink sitting in front of the power button.

"maliniki"
1) I don't care about Microsoft's TOS...they've screwed many customers over who were out of warranty when they got the 3red lights and had to pay an inflated outragous repair cost.

2) I don't think I "fraudulently claimed a new 360." Microsoft has been commiting fraud by selling customers a $400 product that will have an %70 if not higher fail rate..which then will cause an large amount of people to have to pay a crazy repair fee, and they won't even recall it. They rather let the 360 crap out on you and then install a new heatsink and act like their was no huge problem...(that my friend is wrong when buying a product from a BILLION dollar company)

3) I don't pirate "plenty of material." You probably can't even tell me what if anything that I've pirated let alone make an over exagerated assumption like that! The few games I do copy I've paid a rental fee to play them at home, at least I don't sit up and download 360 games off the web all day and then burn em to disk.

4) I like my thread title quite much!

"maliniki"

Before you make anymore silly comments you should really chillout, you act like I robbed Microsoft..All I did was get a switch of consoles. My console was working just fine but it was just banned so it's not that bad..give me a break!! Microsoft gets to KEEP my old console that is in %100 WORKING banned condition. That to me aint that bad. Most of the people in these Xbox forums that YOU seem to be visiting right now are pirates & OR hackers, so go cry foul to someone else ...why are you in these Xbox 360 threads that mainly discuss hacking, game backups and piracy ETC? Ok so don't act like you don't do some form of piracy your damn self.. because I know you do!

 

Well that's cool. I've read a few articles about repairs getting them in the U.K. and also in Canada, but none yet here in the U.S.

You are in the states, right?

Anyhow, with the new 65nm processors reported to be implimented by this fall and now this added heatsink, hopefully the heat issues will be resolved.

 

Yea I'm in the US.

 

im not happy of that because my xbox 360 will still going to be a suxor!

 

Thats because if your were to get caught out it would be classed as theft.

No.... some forums I'll readily admit advocate the use of illegal materials and outright piracy, I don't visit them, I'm interested in backing up MY OWN LEGALLY PURCHASED GAMES and the use of Homebrew on the 360 system, pushing things forward in terms of what the machine is actually capable of doing. I own a PSP running 340 OE, does that also make me a pirate? Irrelevant of the fact that every game on my memory stick has been ripped from my own UMDs and the fact that my memory stick mostly contains dev tools for my work with the PSP system.

As I stated previously, just because your of wanton moral standing do not tar us all with your brush. Again, I will repeat myself. Kudos to you for fraud against M$. I still think the title of the thread is misleading but whatever.

 

good job fgamer. What if because they overlooked what you did for some odd reason, and classify it as a refurbish machine who they will send to someone who legitimately has a problem just to realized they were banned because they were sent a banned machine. Doesn't matter if because of the many people that do this causes them to screw up once to twice; You are just giving someone else your problems, no MS.

 

I have no desire to pick a fight with anyone, I'm far more content with an adult debate. If nothing else this thread has created a debate. I have to say Rydis has raised a valid point though, one which I didn't consider. Some other unfortunate soul may well end up with your banned console. I'd be p*ssed if that person was me...

 

I'd imagine that each console is logged into their system once unpacked at the repair center. This will tell them if it's a new repair, previously repaired, what problem was reported on phone call, etc, etc. And I'm sure if MS had logged it as banned prior to it being sent in, it'll also show that and it'd either be unbanned before being sent to a new owner OR it'd be automatically returned to the sender.

I'm sure we can all agree that more than one banned console has made it's way to the return center by now and if people were getting refurbs which were automatically banned from Live the forums would be flooded.

 

I am not saying its common, but it is possible. And I wouldn't limit it to that either. THere are people who sell banned 360's on ebay also. Which really isn't no different then what fgamer is already doing. You dont always just screw the company who screwed you, you are also screwing other people.

 

Dear fagamer,

You sir, live a very sad life if it takes you scamming a company of a gaming console. Get a job, and go buy a new one. YOU screwed up, YOU broke the TOS, YOU are a pirate. I sincerely hope that your console gets the 3 red lights of death any moment now.

I hope you know that piracy is a felony and it would be a shame if you were caught on that. Every game that you have at your house that you cant show an original copy of can be counted as one count. Im sure you have more than just a few games laying around.


I hope you can grow up and realize what you did was wrong.

PS- a mod might want to close this as its becoming a flame war.

 

Ok what you're saying is false and NOT possible. Why and the heck would Microsoft make a notation that my 360 has been banned and then send it to another customer? That has a %0 likely-hood (and your trying to make excuses and say what I did is gonna subject someone else to losing out, which won't happen).

Clearly Microsoft knows what consoles have been banned or broke etc. Whatever problem that's occured they know how to reprogram them to stock condition with a new serial number etc. That's pretty much common sense, if that's the case how do they get your same old serial number to be display inside the 360's menu under system info when you get a refurbished unit? That's because they've reprogrammed your data inside it with your info which would then give it the same functionality as your previous console. So you can't just send it in to the repair center claiming 3 red lights and think you'll be un-banned that way. They'll insert your old info into the refurbished unit which would still leave you banned. The only way to get around that is to get another console with another serial number which they did send me. Go to console settings in the 360's main menu and click system info and you'll clearly see your serail number there and console I.D....that's how I know they insert all info into refurbished units.

 

Im saying all corporations make mistakes now and then. And if you read the follow up, it stated places on ebay also (but still not limited to). I am just generalizing what your doing, not you specifically. Please learn to read.