recording live concerts audio only

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  1. ZoSoIV

    ZoSoIV Active member

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    as most of you know i go to alot of live shows ,Gov't Mule, Widespread Panic ,shows at small clubs etc. and want to record the audio in the highest quality possible. so i was wondering if anyone had an opinion on recorders. i did do some research and found this.

    ZOOM H2 PORTABLE 2-TRACK SD RECORDER


    http://www.zzounds.com/item--ZOMH2
     
    ZoSoIV, Jul 30, 2009
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    that looks like a pretty good recorder. i suppose there's no way to get a feed from the audio mixer in the club though?
     
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    djscoop, thats a possibility i will look into it when i buy and try it out being i will be using it mostly in small clubs
     
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    yeah it has a line input on it that you can use. obviously recording the audio coming from the live mixer will be MUCH better than the audio from a hand held recorder inside a small club, no matter how good of a device it is. in a small club you will have to deal with audience noise and echo
     
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    The drawback of a direct feed is it will be mostly the vocals. Especially in a small club they don't mix much of the amplified instruments or drums in as they make a lot more noise than the vocals.
     
    olyteddy, Aug 4, 2009
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  6. varnull

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    Crossed pair of mics about 3/4 of the way back in a small room.. larger venues.. aim to be looking somewhere around 60 degrees on a side to the main rig center stage front.

    Live feed.. even on a big venue will sound weird.. been there done that.. They always use a couple of "ambience" mics as well.. crowd and actual acoustics make a lot of the presence of a venue.. not just the noise the band make.

    You would be very surprised how much what comes out of the main system differs from what you think you hear.. very surprised.
     
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    probably a tripod/stand set above the crowd would be the ideal placement
     
    ZoSoIV, Aug 4, 2009
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  8. varnull

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    That's what we used to do.. with a crossed pair of high volume mics.. shure sm58's actually.. on the top. Domestic things can't handle the levels encountered.
     
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    yeah sm58s are great mics...i use them for all different applications. i especially like them for micing snare drums and even hi hats on drum sets.
     
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  10. varnull

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    I preferred a small akg condenser for snare and overheads.. and the 57 for the rest of the kit.. bass drum was the industry standard T12

    58's for vocals and backline.. and I had a couple of oddball shure omnis that were useful for leslie organ cabs and things like that. XD
     
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