hey everyone this question must have been asked so many times, and i read many threads on this forums about it, but it doesn't really answer my question clearly. Using the PSX in the old times, I was able to accomplish the swaptrick, with the Playstation 2, I am able to boot PSX games using the swaptrick and that pretty easily now... When it comes to playstation 2 games, i haven't tried it yet, but i've read many things about it. First, I read you needed a Gameshark, which I don't and gameshark itself is as expensive as a modchip, and as i dont use cheats, better use a modchip, but i dont really feel like buying one and messing with my ps2. The GS boot thinggy looked nice, and easily to perform... Then, i've read an old article about another swaptrick that requires a certain patch and a utility disc, though, this has been updated with a new patch utility which you can boot from any original ps2 CDs... but does it covers DVD ? *shrugs* Then i've read another article that speaks about the memory card exploit. Seems pretty easy to accomplish but requires swap magic, as swap magic is almost as expensive as GS... yeah, you get the idea... Finally, I've read an article that states that, if you do it right, the ps2 swaptrick was almost as "simple" as the psx one. You put the original ps2 disc, then swap to backup before seeing the license screen (the "Playstation 2" logo). Some of you might think that overall, for someone who never used PS2 backups, this might be confusing. Now... my question is... Is there a swaptrick method that doesn't use GS or Swap Magic ? Or is there a better method (without GS, SM, or modchip) ? Side-note: I am not scared with opening my PS2 and directly do the swaptrick with the drive, I don't like those knife and cog methods, I learned the hard way, and I prefer the hard way, lol. Another side-note: Much of you will think i am a cheap guy, well, yeah maybe i am, but i dont have 50$ for a GS (yes, GS2 here are about that price ¬¬) or 20$ USD (which is about 35$ CAD) for a modchip... heh Thank you.