Rip any Sony ARccOS Movie with DVD Decrypter No PSL & No AnyDVD

Discussion in 'DVD±R for advanced users' started by JaguarGod, Nov 11, 2005.

  1. tru5t

    tru5t Member

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    yes, but is there an alternative to full disc compression?
    my goal is to compress the movie (to go into my ipod)...

    I got AVP working with Nero Recode (its actually not multi-angle)...
    Enemy of the State...and also The Rock are both multi-angle...
    i've heard that The Incredibles is also multi-angle...
    but i don't own that movie...

    i was wondering, what does the stripstream feature of IFOEdit actually do?
    in fact, I dont know much of what IFOEdit is actually doing...
    what does "Get VTS Vectors" do?
    your guide just tells us to do it and it magically fixes things....?

    maybe by understanding what it does I can come up with ideas how to work out the multi-angle stuff...

    thanks very much in advance...
     
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  2. vurbal

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    It takes the the selected video, audio, and subpicture streams and writes new VOBs with them.
    It corrects the addresses of the different streams in the IFO files. IFO files actually have the location of each VOBU (fragment of video/audio/subpictures) mapped out. By removing content you've altered the location of these fragments and they get remapped in this operation.
     
  3. JaguarGod

    JaguarGod Active member

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    Vurbal,

    Thanks for replying to the questions for me while I was absent.

    @tru5t

    Now, brace yourself for another long post. I separated the different possibilities with "******"......

    In order to get the movie only, you can use the IFO mode and this will rip the main movie, but only 1 angle.

    If you want to keep all angles, then rip in file mode and choose the main movie only.

    ****If the PSP can handle actual DVD files, then what you would do is use IFOEdit to strip the streams from the Video. After that, you will want to delete IFOs and then use IFOEdit's "
    create new IFOs" function. This is the equivalent of DVD Shrink's Re-author" mode. It will make a new VTS_01_0.IFO and VIDEO_TS.IFO. You will have to rename your vts to VTS_01_x.VOB.

    *****Now, if PSP cannot handle DVD files, you will have to look for ways to convert the movie into DivX, XviD, mpeg-1 or whatever format it can handle.

    *****If the only problem is the audio, then you will have to Demux the movie and convert the audio to .wav. After the rip, you can use VobEdit to do this. It will also make a subtitle file .sup, that IFOEdit can use. You will have to open a VOB and then click on the "Demux" button. Then check the 3 boxes at the bottom . Click OK and then you will have your .m2v, .ac3, & .sup files.

    You can then convert the .ac3 to .wav using Besweet.

    http://besweet.notrace.dk/

    I would recommend also getting the GUI for the program. Transcoding the file will not take long. After it is finished, you will want to use IFOEdit's "DVD author" function. Select "DVD Author=>author new DVD". Then you select the source of your audio, video, and subtitles and click OK. It will create a new DVD Folder for you.

    *****If the problem is with the Format, meaning it needs to be .mpeg, then you will ahve to set IFOEdit not to split the files. You can then rename the extension (I forget if it is .MPEG or .MPG). You cannot do this with the original VOB, because an MPEG cannot contain .AC3 audio. I do not know how they work with subs though.

    *****As for completely changing the format, you will either need a tool like DVD to AVI or similar. I so not use tools like this, so I am not familiar with any. Go to Afterdaw's guides section and look for a guide on this:

    http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/

    You can however convert formats of the demuxed files. Besweet can create virually any audio format and you can use an encoder to convert to mpeg-1. Also other encoding programs can convert to different formats like DivX and such.
     
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  4. UncasMS_3

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    i wonder what makes you prefer THIS routine to dvdd 3540 + psl2 plugin + pgcedit?
     
  5. JaguarGod

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    I do not prefer this over any routine. I like the PSL option and have the guide bookmarked.

    There is one advantage in this method though. In order to make a PSL, you need the original DVD, for this, you only need it for as long as it takes to rip, which will be about 25 minutes. You will not need the DVD After that and can edit it after you have everything on your HD.

    You have to also realize, this ia actually simpler than it looks. I will be writing a slightly different guide soon and you will see that it will be a rather short and simple process.
     
  6. okayl

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    okay, i followed your guide to where you say check only cells 10 and 11 in chapter 1 of VTS_01 PGC1 [2:00:56]

    in VTS_01 chapter 1 of my dvd there are 26 cells not 11.

    how do i do this correctly, and how do you find out which ones to check and uncheck??

    and also, i dont have any cells with a vob id - 2 in VTS_01 CHAPTER 1

    to be exact none of VTS_01 - 15 chapters have a vob id of - 2
     
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  7. JaguarGod

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    I have replied to your PM. I am pretty sure that only the last cell of Chapter 1 should be left. That is how it was in the Widescreen version.
     
  8. semid13

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    I don't use AnyDVD too but I don't have problems ripping movies like Resident Evil, Star Wars 3, Bewitched, Stealth, Christmas with the Kranks. I am using DVD Decrypter, DVD Shrink, DVD Xcopy. In fact I have been using XCopy for a year & backup more than a hundred movies before I stumble onto this website & download DVD Decrypter. The only difficult movie so far is Madagascar. XCopy & DVD Shrink failed to work. I have to use DVD Decrypter & ripped in full & use Nero to burn using a DL disk. Then I open the DL disk in DVD Shrink & compress to DVD5.
     
  9. KyJoe36

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    Do you have any suggestions on why the DVD drive acts like there is no media present? It's only acting this way for Sony and Warner Bros. movies. DVDDecrpyter works great for all the rest. Thanks
     
  10. JaguarGod

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    I have noticed that almost every Sony Movie comes with some stupid self installing Media player or something. It is possible that they hid some type of malware into this software that is causing your DVD Drive to act up. You should probably disable autorun.

    Click on the start button and then select "run". Type in "regedit" and press enter. This will take you into your Windows Registry.

    Now Navigate to:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Cdrom.

    Double-click the Autorun value, and type 0 for its value.

    This will disable autorun. Keep in mind that when you disable this, all those CDs that you insert will not run until you tell the drive to run them. However, I think that for Windows XP, you will still get that pop up that asks you which program you want to run a CD with. Doing this will also prevent Sony Rootkit to install and may stop other CD copy Protections.

    Also, it may help to have updated firmware. The firmware on my DVD-ROM drive is over 5 years old (my burner's is up to date though), but I have never had autorun enabled. Maybe autorun in the Sony movie's has something where it checks for the latest firmware or something. If that does not work, then try using your DVDRW drive. These tend to be able to read discs better even if authored or pressed badly.

    Also, I suspect that part of the Sony Protection relies on bad replication facilities, so a bad disc is possible. Bad presses have a hard time being read by DVD-ROMs, but they work on a DVD Player.
     
  11. aishaj

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    Help!!! I'm having trouble with Madagascar...Have you tried to burn it and did this work for you? I would really like to see how you burn this one. Thanks
     
  12. JaguarGod

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    Try DVD Decrypter in ISO Mode and then open the .ISO in DVD Shrink. This should work.

    If not, rip it in File mode and then use VobBlanker to blank out PGC 2, 3, 4, & 5 in VTS_08 (you might as well get rid of the previews while you are at it).

    I do not have this movie, so there is very little chance of me writing a guide for it.

    I took a look at the IFOs, and this corruption is slightly different from Sony ARccOS (BTW, this is a MacroVision RipGuard movie). Unlike ARccOS movies, the corruption seems to be in two different places. I suspect that Cell 2 of VTS_08 Chapter 1 is corrupted and PGC 5 of VTS_08. Both of these lie in VTS_08_1.VOB, so it is definatley possible. The difference is the corruption in PGC 5. In Sony Movies, I have only seen it in PGC 1.
     
  13. aishaj

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    Thanks I will try that. I guess I just need to see what I should get rid of...Thanks Again
     
  14. aishaj

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    Thanks it worked!!!
     
  15. pigpen404

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    Okay I don't understand how you know what cells to select or not. Also will the guide work for other forms of encryption. If not not is there other guides. Or are they movie specific.
     
  16. KyJoe36

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    Well, I don't know what's going on. The DVD drive won't even recognize a Sony or Warner Bros. disc. I have tried Decrypter, AnyDVD, FabExpress, but nothing works.
     
  17. JaguarGod

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    @pigpen404,

    The bad cells are always in Chapter 1. The easiest way to find them it to look at the length of the cells in time. Anything that plays for only 1 second or similar will not be necessary.

    You can also just rip chapter 1 and split by Cell ID. Decrypter will get stuck on the ARccOS cells. Look at the cell number it is ripping and this is the first corrupted cell. Now try ripping again and begin with the cell after this one. It will either get stuck again on another ARccOS cell or finish ripping the chapter if there are none left.

    After it is finished play the chapters one by one. Look at the video they contain. The first cell of the actuall movie will be the one with the full Sony/Columbia/MGM, logo. Usually this will be either the last cell of the chapter or the last two cells of the chapter.

    Also, this will work for any ARccOS corrupted movie. Only the cells kept will be different. Did you notice which version of Decrypter I used for the Guide?? It is version 3.1.0.0, which has no ARccOS support (don't even think it had RCE support). ARccOS is not a new protection system, it is more intentionally screwing up the DVD Disc to make parts of it unreadable. A new protection system would require new hardware (DVD Players, DVD-ROM drives, ect...)

    Here is a guide I posted for "Stealth" using an identical method and the same version of Decrypter:

    http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/260734

    @KyJoe36,

    This is the second time I am hearing this problem with Sony and WB movies. This is rather strange because WB does not have any corrupted movies. It is possible that you have bad presses. Do you know if your motherboard drivers are good? I had a problem with all DVDs except backups and it turned out that I needed to reinstall my IDE drivers. Also, there may be some conflict with software you are using like AnyDVD & DVD43.
     
  18. mousedawn

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    THIS IS THE MOST...arrrgh.... i have the movie serenity and cannot copy it...people on here saying they copied it fine...no u didnt because this is my SECOND copy of this movie and it still wont copy....dvd shrink wont compress it enough to fit on the disc....same problems i had with stealth but sum1 put up a guide...I DONT KNOW WHUT TO DO MAN!!!! CHECK MY SIG
     
  19. okayl

    okayl Guest

    serenity was a bad movie anyways, well it was ok i guess..but didnt live up to its expectations.
     
  20. bat395

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    [bold]mousedawn[/bold]
    "DVD Shrink wont compress it enough to fit on the disc"

    If the only problem is not shrinking it down enough, take the image file that was shrunk but is still too big and shrink that one. Works for me.
     

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