Why oh why don't people look before posting? http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/612004 RI4M has gone.. I have the code but it's not going anywhere further than my PC so [insert rude noise]. No patches, no updates, nothing. I use some of the engine to create psl lists and encryption keys for linux rippers, but that's it. dvdfab have a nice site, why not look there for updates? Think you can close this one now ddp