Ritek G04, not so hot?

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  1. ozzy1

    ozzy1 Regular member

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    The reason you got those swirls is cause the discs cant handle 4x and the dye melted.
     
    ozzy1, Dec 3, 2004
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  2. cuteperv

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    what do you mean so bad. Tell me the problem. As far as i see, the game loads as fast as my original game. Can't beat that with memorex.
     
    cuteperv, Dec 3, 2004
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  3. ciderv2

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    I'm not exactly sure how to check media ID but I opened up Nero InfoTool and under Manufacturer ID it says ProdiscF01, is that the media ID?
     
    ciderv2, Dec 3, 2004
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  4. sly_61019

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    yes, thats the id.
     
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  5. ciderv2

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    is ProDiscF01 supposed to be a good media or not? they've been working great for me.
     
    ciderv2, Dec 3, 2004
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  7. ciderv2

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    well in that case for the price you can get Legacy DVD-R media for I would highly recommend them.
     
    ciderv2, Dec 3, 2004
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  8. biggoltee

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    I've been using Philips Dvd-R (CMC Mag.Ae1) with no problems so far I've done 6 back-ups but I've done games ppl had problems with like GTASA,Starwars BF
    DefJam FFNY, and some others plus I have one of cheapest DVD-/+ R drives everyone on the net says it's garbage a NU DVDRW DDW-082 so I think sometimes it's the just luck of the draw
     
    biggoltee, Dec 4, 2004
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  9. jackl1495

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    yeah, used that nifty dvdinfo (thanks) program.
    these are legitamte G04 disks, and they definetly work badly.

    my much berated princo discs work far better, still, i'm gonna lay hands on something better soon, thanks again guys.


    Anyone know of a place online that sells discs, presenting the media code upfront? I'd rather that. My places don't.
     
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    jackl1495, Dec 4, 2004
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  10. Drifty

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    just tried some more media, was usin TDK and that seemed to work fine with most of my backups, until i backed up burnout 3, with the TDK the whole game stuttered badly, so I backed it up with Verbatim and it runs flawlessly, so im gunna stick with the verbatims for the time being :)
     
    Drifty, Dec 4, 2004
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  11. catfreak

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     ... If you go to http://www.supermediastore.com and click on the media that you're interested in, they will display the media code as part of the description of the product ... by the way, here's a good price for first class (-R) media ... http://www.supermediastore.com/taiyo-yuden-silver-thermal-8x-dvd-r-media-100.html ... http://www.meritline.com also displays the media code ... I haven't had good experiences with them as of late, but they do have a bunch of satisfied customers ...

     ... Personally, I get (+R) RiDATA branded Ritek discs from NewEgg and they have been coded RICOHJPNR01 and they have been 100% quality all the way ...
     
    catfreak, Dec 5, 2004
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  12. rustyfanz

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    I use Teon's and they work fine. i've heard HPAdvance works awesome though!
     
    rustyfanz, Dec 5, 2004
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  13. viper900

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  14. ciderv2

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  15. cuteperv

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    what the crap is legacy? This brand probably won't work. And no i always burn at 2x speed, try 4x and chances are u will end up w/ a non-working ps2 backup dvd.
     
    cuteperv, Dec 5, 2004
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  16. Cachorrao

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    I ran the 3 types of G04's that I have used through DvdInfo and this is what I came up with. There is certainly seems to be a difference between the clear branded hub G04's that I have had trouble with backing up PS2 games and the other 2 types that I have had no problems with in the past. Now I'm no expert and not sure what most of this stuff means but perhaps someone else can figure out what the differenc is.



    frosted branded hub:

    Media Information
    Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
    Media code/Manufacturer ID RITEKG04
    Format Capacity Blank Disc
    Free Blocks 411107328
    Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.71GB)
    Book Type DVD-R
    Media Type DVD-R
    Manufacturer Rated Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
    Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
    Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.0x 2770KBps
    Available Write Descriptor CLV 1.0x 1385KBps
    Write Strategy Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
    2x Speed OPC beta 08
    2x Speed OPC power 12
    2x Write Strategy field 1 11 86 67 80
    2x Write Strategy field 2 88 80 00 00 00 00
    4x Speed OPC beta 05
    4x Speed OPC power 1B
    4x Write Strategy field 1 0E 10 08 09
    4x Write Strategy field 2 97 06 0D 0B
    4x Write Strategy field 3 00 00 00 00
    4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse 04
    4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse 1D
    4x Write Strategy field 4 18 A8 88 85
    4x Write Strategy field 5 89 AC 88 80 00 00
    4x Write Strategy field 6 00 00 D0 00 00
    Data area starting sector 30000h
    Linear Density 0.267um/bit
    Track Density 0.74um/track
    Number of Layers 1

    Complete Media Code
    00000000 00 6C 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 76 0E 14 .l...@....R..v..
    00000010 88 9A 80 00 03 52 49 54 45 4B 47 00 04 30 34 00 .....RITEKG..04.
    00000020 00 00 00 00 05 88 80 00 00 00 01 00 06 08 12 11 ................



    fully branded:
    Media Information
    Disc Regions are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
    Media code/Manufacturer ID RITEKG04
    Format Type UDF 1.02
    Volume Name VOLUME IDENTIFIER
    Application id
    Implementation id PIONEER
    Recording Date/Time (mm/dd/yyyy) 8/12/2004 14:02:15
    Format Capacity 4.15GB(4.46GB)
    Book Type DVD-R
    Media Type DVD-R
    Manufacturer Rated Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
    Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
    Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.0x 2770KBps
    Available Write Descriptor CLV 1.0x 1385KBps
    Write Strategy Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
    2x Speed OPC beta 08
    2x Speed OPC power 12
    2x Write Strategy field 1 11 86 67 80
    2x Write Strategy field 2 88 80 00 00 00 00
    4x Speed OPC beta 05
    4x Speed OPC power 1B
    4x Write Strategy field 1 0E 10 08 09
    4x Write Strategy field 2 97 06 0D 0B
    4x Write Strategy field 3 00 00 00 00
    4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse 04
    4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse 1D
    4x Write Strategy field 4 18 A8 88 85
    4x Write Strategy field 5 89 AC 88 80 00 00
    4x Write Strategy field 6 00 00 D0 00 00
    Data area starting sector 30000h
    Data area end sector 213D4Fh
    Linear Density 0.267um/bit
    Track Density 0.74um/track
    Number of Layers 1

    Complete Media Code
    00000000 00 6C 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 76 0E 14 .l...@....R..v..
    00000010 88 9A 80 00 03 52 49 54 45 4B 47 00 04 30 34 00 .....RITEKG..04.
    00000020 00 00 00 00 05 88 80 00 00 00 01 00 06 08 12 11 ................



    clear branded hub:

    Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
    Media code/Manufacturer ID RITEKG04
    Format Capacity Blank Disc
    Free Blocks 411107328
    Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.71GB)
    Book Type DVD-R
    Media Type DVD-R
    Manufacturer Rated Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
    Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
    Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.0x 2770KBps
    Available Write Descriptor CLV 1.0x 1385KBps
    Write Strategy Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
    2x Speed OPC beta 08
    2x Speed OPC power 12
    2x Write Strategy field 1 11 86 67 80
    2x Write Strategy field 2 88 80 00 00 00 00
    4x Speed OPC beta 06
    4x Speed OPC power 19
    4x Write Strategy field 1 0A 0B 09 01
    4x Write Strategy field 2 99 05 0C 0B
    4x Write Strategy field 3 00 00 00 00
    4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse 04
    4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse 1D
    4x Write Strategy field 4 18 A8 88 85
    4x Write Strategy field 5 89 AC 88 80 00 00
    4x Write Strategy field 6 00 00 D0 00 00
    Data area starting sector 30000h
    Linear Density 0.267um/bit
    Track Density 0.74um/track
    Number of Layers 1

    Complete Media Code
    00000000 00 6C 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 96 0E 14 .l...@....R.....
    00000010 88 9A 80 00 03 52 49 54 45 4B 47 00 04 30 34 00 .....RITEKG..04.
    00000020 00 00 00 00 05 88 80 00 00 00 02 00 06 08 12 11 ................



     
    Cachorrao, Dec 5, 2004
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  17. ceno82

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    when I said TDK 8x suck I had burned them at 4x Ive been burning everything at 4x and never had an issue. The whole burning at faster then 2x issue is a hoax that got started somehow. I'm pretty sure the guys at PSOWNZ know what theyre talkin about especially seeing how theyre the # 1 source for home brew PS2 progz. I agree that Maxell do stop working after a while. My friend told me so and I found out the hard way also. Haven't had an issue with memorex though
     
    ceno82, Dec 6, 2004
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  18. ceno82

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    ok riteks used to be the shit! For anyone new to the riteks and I mean within a few months new I'm sorry you haven't had the greatest of luck with them, but B4 all this crappy batch of riteks came about, they where hands down the best media to buy even better then those expensive store sold brands. I never ever ever burnt a coaster at 4x until the crappy G04's came out.
     
    ceno82, Dec 6, 2004
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  19. savy2917

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    Just a comment on dvd media. Maxell and TDK are top rated but only -R format. Just because a disc proves reliable in one format like -R it does not follow that the same discs are as good in +R and + or - RW.I recently bought Maxell -RW disc from Argos and they turned out to be Ritek discs. Appparenty maxell can't keep up with demand and contract out to Ritek, these disks are supposed to be same dye quality but they definately aren't.Check out www.nomorecoasters.com
     
    savy2917, Dec 6, 2004
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