SATA drive problems

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  1. Nephilim

    Nephilim Moderator Staff Member

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    Alright fellas, I had my mobo take a dump on me a few days ago so I replaced it with a Gigabyte GA-8IPE 1000-G which uses the Intel ICH5 chipset.

    Now to the specifics. I've a 160 Gb Maxtor SATA drive that I've used to store all my importants files, docs, 150+ ripped CDs, and my precious smut collection - just a dynamic drive for storage. I've removed my drive and reinstalled it several times before with the old mobo (Gigabyte GA-8INXP, Intel 7205 chipset) with nary a problem but now after reassembling the PC with the new mobo my Maxtor is coming up as unreadable. Pertinent facts,

    - Both the BIOS and Windows see the drive and know it's a Maxtor but it doesn't show up in My Computer and Windows lists the drive as unreadable through the logical disk manager in Administrative tools.

    - The chipset drivers have been updated to the latest.

    - I've tried three different cables and both SATA ports on the mobo and neither helped.

    - As far as I know the ICH5 chipset has native SATA support so I shouldn't need third party drivers to get the PC to recognize the drive. The mobo driver disc didn't include any.

    - I seriously doubt the drive encountered any ESD during the removal and install.


    So what do you fellas think? I have some crap on there that was added since the last backup of the drive that I'd rather not lose.
     
  2. peanuts2

    peanuts2 Regular member

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    you need to disable the IDE channel in BIOS and enable SATA.Try running the SATA drives from a floppy from the motherboard disc.Update your bios afterwards with the @bios feature.
     
  3. Nephilim

    Nephilim Moderator Staff Member

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    It's running in SATA right now :(


    I'm not sure what you mean by that. The mobo didn't come with any floppy and the driver CD contains nothing to do with SATA drivers or utilities. The only drivers it has are chipset, LAN, audio and USB.

    I appreciate the help :)
     
  4. ozzy214

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    It may be possible since you changed mobos...that the two mobos had different chipsets and buses. So basically the files were wrote by one chipset and cant be read by the other. This common in raid set ups where say yeah had a nividia chip write and ya trying to read it with a intel chipset. Just a guess......

    It would make sense since ya said windows knows theres a drive, but its acting like the drive is un-formatted. One thing you can try to do is download the utility from the manufacters site and run it to fix the boot code of the drive and mbr. It may be damaged and windows wont read it till its fixed. Happened one day when I was using partition magic. Magic fucked up the mbr code and windows couldnt read the disc. Used the utility and all was good...:>



    Ya stated the old mobo...whats the new one so one of us can look up the chipset manufacters...
     
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    Just though of something. I never use ghost, but maybe you can ghost these files to your primary hard drive and then reformat the sata drive...then move everything back on it.
     
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    Nephilim Moderator Staff Member

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    Thanks for all the great input fellas. I tried everything suggested but nothing did the trick.

    I just ran Maxtor's PowerMax utility and it said the drive is failing then gave me a diagnostic code for an RMA. Nothing has worked as far as getting any data off it so I guess I need to check up on Maxtor's warranty policies and then look into those external backup drives with the handy dandy one button backup dealie bobs.
     
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  8. The_OGS

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    Hi Neph,
    What you require is a 'Basic' disk!
    If you upgrade a Basic Disk to a Dynamic Disk (to extend the Windows Volume or to span the Volume over several drives) then the Dynamic Disk is tied to your Windows installation.
    It puts a 'signature' on it; any Basic disk can be upgraded to Dynamic but it is a one-way-street (no going back).
    The drive will be unreadable once separated from its Volume.
    You would have had to extract the precious Data (omigawd, not your Tums! Say it's not so...) before that Windows install went kaput.
    If you could've changed mobo's under the same Windows install, that would've been fine, but you installed new Windows right?
    Maybe I'm not on the Right Path here but, if your drive is Dynamic then Windows could/should refuse to recognize it in Disk Manager.
    Can you not get it to recognize/import/put some kind of signature on it?
    That's harsh, man... Oh well (teach & learn)
    Keep all disks Basic, unless using NTFS and:
    1) running security encryption, or disk 'quotas' etc.
    2) running software (Windows) RAID
    3) extending/spanning existing Volume over 2 or more physical disks
    Let us know how it all works out Neph ;^(
    L8R
     
  9. rugripper

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    thats just sucks,hope you figure something out.to bad you cant get the other mobo working long enough to burn the data to a cd.like the smut[lol]peace
     
  10. Nephilim

    Nephilim Moderator Staff Member

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    That may have been part of the problem because it was a dynamic disc under the old install and was still listed as dynamic though unreadable under the new install. I've no idea why I made it dynamic in the first place but now I know damn well to keep discs basic from now on. The old mobo is trashed so there's no way to hobble it enough to get data off the drive. It's not that bad anyway since my last backup was a little over a month ago so it's not like I lost everything - just what I added since the last backup.

    Ah well, I just converted it to basic and it's formatting as I type this. I reached my limit of frustration with the sorry prick. After it's formatted and ready to go I'm going to run PowerMax again and see if it's still detecting errors and telling me the drive is bad.

    Thanks again everyone :)
     
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