SATA OR IDE

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  1. laoguy69

    laoguy69 Member

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    Hi i have a dell dimension 8400 and don't know if my computer is sata or ide. my computer is useing a maxtor 7y250m0 and that is a sata, but i been useing ide drives. i wanted to buy a sata dvd-rw drive but i don't know if it will work or not.

    thanks, any input would help!
     
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  2. Ripper

    Ripper Active member

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    Don't bother. There is no real advantage when it comes to DVD drives, SATA or IDE.

    IDE is more commonly known and used. Also, they're cheaper.

    Why are you looking for SATA specifically?
     
  3. laoguy69

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    I been told that sata is better and i read that you need a computer with a sata drive to be able to make xbox 360 backup. thanks, anyways i think i will just buy a ide drive than.
     
  4. BIGTOXY69

    BIGTOXY69 Regular member

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    laoguy69- & did the person that told you that just happen to be in sales ? and have some sata drives to sell ? LOL!
     
  5. ireland

    ireland Active member

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    JUST INFO

    SATA transfers at 1.5GB/s and SATA ll transfers at 3.0GB/s. unless you do serious gaming or something that needs a good hard drive, the SATA will work fine. if you plan on buying a SATA ll (i recommend it) i would suggest the Western Digital Caviar SE 16 250GB. you can get it from newegg. it has a 16MB cache instead of an 8MB cache so it will transfer twice as much from the HDD to your mobo in one pass.


    ATA standards versions, transfer rates, and features

    The following table shows the names of the versions of the ATA standards and the transfer modes and rates supported by each. Note that the transfer rate for each mode (for example, 66.7 MB/s for UDMA4, commonly called "Ultra-DMA 66") gives its maximum theoretical transfer rate on the cable. This is simply two bytes multiplied by the effective clock rate, and presumes that every clock cycle is used to transfer end-user data. In practice, of course, protocol overhead reduces this value.

    Congestion on the host bus to which the ATA adapter is attached may also limit the maximum burst transfer rate. For example, the maximum data transfer rate for conventional PCI bus is 133 MB/s, and this is shared among all active devices on the bus.

    In addition, no ATA hard drives exist capable of measured sustained transfer rates of above 80 MB/s. Furthermore, sustained transfer rate tests do not give realistic throughput expectations for most workloads: They use I/O loads specifically designed to encounter almost no delays from seek time or rotational latency. Hard drive performance under most workloads is limited first and second by those two factors; the transfer rate on the bus is a distant third in importance. Therefore, transfer speed limits above 66 MB/s only really affect performance when the hard drive can satisfy all I/O requests by reading from its internal cache — a very unusual situation, especially considering that such data is usually already buffered by the operating system.

    MORE INFO HERE
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATAPI
     
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  6. saugmon

    saugmon Senior member

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    From what a buddy of mine told me,you have to take the drive out of the xbox 360,place it into your tower,download the correct hacked firmware for it,and place it back into your xbox.Then you gotta insert disc/start game/stop it/remove cover/remove disc/do some more crap/slap disc back in and yadayadayada. Sounds like a bunch of mumbo jumbo, LOL. Xbox uses many different drives,sanyo/hitachi/etc and only a few of those drives have a hacked firmware to start with.

    I was thinking about buying 1 for the gf's kids for christmas. After him telling me what all has to be done,and the newer boxes don't have a hacked firmware, I gave up, LOL. He offered to sell me his bro in laws for $500 which had the hitachi drive-with the hackable firmware/HD/and a couple games.

    Sata drives are very expensive,and not many manufacturers- Well over $200 for the Plextor 716SA. Check out ebay and you'll see how much $ for sata drives.
     
  7. wabashman

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    the 360 only uses 3 drives, the origonal samsung and hitatchi, and the new philips (currently unmoddable). and to hack the fw, all you have to do is get a a single program, plug the dvd drive into a sata pci card, and run the software. and to back up games, all you need is a samsung shd-162c drive flashed with kreon v.08 fw. and either xbox backup creator, or schtrom 3.0. both programs are one click programs. and to burn the game all you need is a good dual layer burner, such as the pioneer 111d.
     

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