I don't take it personal garmoon, but you should assume good faith first. I KNOW why my XPeepee & above machines are doing what they do, and the DRM update is the cause of it. Unfortunately the Xpeepee machines have definate real world purposes for running as they do or I would have a more controlled version running - well actually I do, it's called Windows 2000 Professional-SP2 with a Blaster worm patch. LMFAO Trust me, I am the last one to blame anything on Redmond unless there is good reason to, in this case, DRM is good reason to. I don't know if y'all know about DW15.exe & DW20.exe or not, but you can delete those "error reporting" P.o.S. as well, they are nothing more than Desaware hooks to tell Microsoft where you been hanging out. I remove them as soon as they are installed on almost every piece of M$ software. How do I know this? I was a beta tester for Desaware when they first trotted it out. Pretty scary stuff back then, and still is as it masquerades as harmless BHO sort of stuff. Spybot S&D doesn't think it's harmful and doesn't even detect it. Zonealarm either, it believes it is a legitimate part of you browser. Did you know Desaware can collect all of the sites you visit, store them quietly on your computer and burst them to microsoft as soon as you go for a security patch? As I understand it, all it does is help target ads for vendors which M$ sells data for and gets it by collecting this stuff from DW15.exe/DW20.exe. M$ isn't the only company using it either. Desaware brags about their software's ability to hide in the background and avoid detection while hooking to all the info about your browsing before your own OS sees it. Me? I could care less, let em spy away, buti do find it interesting and the only reason I get pissed is because of the occassional glitch like this 3:10 business. M$ has long been trying to monopolise the market with their MPG4 and audio codec proprietary crap, now people are starting to wake up and realize their survival depends on EVERYONE actively combating M$'s attempts at gaining control of content and imposing a tax on the industry for adding zilch in value. In any event, I didn't come here to debate the value of Xpeepee, I just thought I'd mention WHY it's a problem in case anyone else has it, and offer a ready solution - W2k Pro.