Shoot Em Up + 3:10 to Yuma

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  1. timmybear

    timmybear Member

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    i've tried both DVDFab HD, DVDFab Platinum, Shrink with Any DVD, RipIt4Me, you name it. so far Fab HD managed to rip 3:10 to Yuma, but i can't change it from DVD9 to DVD5 to compress it. in DVD9 the file is over the size limit of a DVD. is there a program which i can use to compress the already ripped files?
     
  2. PacMan777

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    DVD Shrink should be able to do the transcoding (shrinking) job with the Quality Settings checked. I use DVD Rebuilder for the big movies.

    As for difficulty, 3:10 to Yuma wasn't very. I didn't see anything new as far as copy protection goes. Lionsgate used brackets around the movie title to cause a structural error for the recording software. The copy protection hinged on structural errors and bad sector protection. That's why AnyDVD had problems making on the fly corrections. After ripping, remove the brackets and run the decrypted files through FixVTS to process for structural errors and the movie starts up and plays as it's supposed to. All the major decryption programs, including RI4M, can get this one done in Full DVD or Movie Only. I used RI4M in 1-Click mode and it got a good Full DVD rip. For this one I ripped the files in Full DVD, processed with FixVTS, encoded with RB/CCE, and burned with Nero Express.
     
  3. tslayer

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    You guys rock! For 3:10 to Yuma used newest DVDFab HD Decrypter/VobBlanker/ and then DVD Shrink. Worked great........

    thanks for the info,
    tslayer
     
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    That's what we are here for tslayer.

    Cheers!
     
  5. ZoSoIV

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    thats what were here for lol!
     
  6. shiloh72

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    Try using 1 click dvd with anydvd there the only ones that have the new thing called cprx its on alot of new movies and for some reason 1 click dvd copy does the job.it cost but it does work
     
  7. moon111

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    Yuppers, the DVDFab Decrypter/Shrink worked like a charm. But you have to COMPLETELY shutdown AnyDVD, not just dissable. 99.44% of the time AnyDVD/Shrink handles the job quite nicely. Just these few "special children" give us all a rush. Haven't tried 3:10 yet, but some others having problems with like The Grudge 2 I'll have to try it on.
     
  8. moon111

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    Oh, btw, in addition, you may get some abort/retry boxes, don't fret, in this case the retry worked and it went right on buzzing along in DVDFab.
     
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  9. docaz

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    This has been a really helpful thread. I'm in agreement with a few that this seems to be the most difficult movie to backup I've had so far. However, it appears after downloading the latest AnyDVD version and using the latest CloneDVD2, I've been able to backup everything without a glitch.
     
  10. royalaser

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    Hey all an addition to this thread is "Saw IV" Tried ANYDVD DVDFABHD RIPIT4ME VOB BLANKER DVDDECRYPTER none of which worked for a complete rip of the disc, I was able to get a movie only rip from ANYDVD DVDFABHD & RIPIT4ME but it was odd all three programs were giving me a verity of error messages, I ended up going with the "errored" file and was able to successfully burn the movie (4.3 Gigs).
     
  11. bigwop

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    I did Yuma using dvd shrink, anydvd and imgburn. Movie only with deep analysis and max smoothness. Came out great.
     
  12. PacMan777

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    Movie only has been the recommended method (at least to make things easier) when dealing with problematic copy protection. Some of us like the challenge of being able to do the complete copy though.

    First thing I do is check a DVD using RI4M. Open in 1-click and if it says skip to shrink, I close and rip to the HDD with DVD Decrypter. For Shrink users, simply jump to Shrink. If the program needs processing with RI4M and RI4M opens properly, just continue with it for processing. The program does a good job if it can handle the copy protection on the video.

    If RI4M fails, I then give DVDFab a try. Most often that's the solution. For whatever reason, I've noted some scenes having the bitrate altered noticably when using DVDFab for ripping, so I use DVDD whenever possible. When DVDD works, it still seems to supply a cleaner source. Normally DVDFab does the compliance processing during the rip. For when it doesn't, there's FixVTS.

    Another old standby is using AnyDVD + DVDD (with CSS cracking off and check for structural protection unchecked). I've found most often that works better than the AnyDVD ripper (which now incorporates CloneDVD2).

    The reason I like getting files on the hard drive is twofold. I use an encoder and need a source file on the hard drive for faster transfer speeds. Second, I have the files where I can work with them and make corrections if necessary; i.e. processing with FixVTS for compliance errors, or simply removing brackets from titles if they're left after decryption, as in the case of 3:10 To Yuma.

    Shoot Em Up was probably the most difficult of the bunch I recently backed up (3:10 to Yuma, Shoot Em Up, Rush Hour 3, and War), but DVDFab handled it with ease. I processed Shoot Em Up and Rush Hour 3 with DVDFab (it was the only program to do Full DVD on these with ease) and 3:10 To Yuma and War using AnyDVD + DVDD + FixVTS. The reason I don't mention transcoding and burning software much is that with a good cleaned set of files for the source, any program worth having on a PC should be able to handle transcoding and burning.

    My preferences lie with RB/CCE for encoding, DVDCopy for transcoding, and Nero or ImgBurn for burning. Those paying attention can see there's a free component for many of my favorites. There's free RB, ImgBurn, DVDFab, DVD Decrypter, Shrink. So, a person can transcode and encode without a big "Euro" crunch on the wallet (slysoft).
     
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  13. robchro

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    Hi!

    If you're referring to using RipIt4me, do the following:

    1) Make sure your target directory does NOT include the brackets in the name, as does the original DVD (<3:10 to Yuma>)

    2) SKIP Step 3B and SKIP FixVTS (Or the equivalent step in later versions of RipIt4Me)

    3) I'm guessing the DVDs are poorly mastered - because you REALLY have to be patient while A) the IFOs are first read and B) the PSL file is being created.

    Other than that, it was smooth sailing (I used RipIt4Me v.1.6.4)

    Use this method i got it on the first try on a single layer dvd-r.
    Hope this helps
     
  14. PacMan777

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    Anyone using RipIt4Me should be using version 1.7.1.0. DVDs with high bogus file counts can beat the older RI4M versions. Talladega Nights was one of the first to show up with that type protection and some since have upped the count. FixVTS was upgraded to account for that and 1.7.1.0 incorporated the updated FixVTS. No need for the standalone FixVTS version anymore. As for the brackets, the 1-Click mode is the method I use most often and for some reason it will often work when Wizard won't. So far I've only run into one release I had to do with Wizard mode. When RI4M 1.7.1.0 gets through processing and you get a good analysis in Shrink, you know you're going to get a good backup. As I mentioned though, there are releases that RI4M simply can't open and some it errors out on during processing. That's what comes from lost support. In those cases go with DVDFab for decryption or use DVDFab to start with.
     
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  15. greenpaw

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    Thought I was ok (after 3 tries) I got Shoot'em up , full DL backup and it plays on my normal DVD players, but on my PS3 it freezes a couple times late in the movie and it won't play further. Grrrrrr

    I'm gonna do just the movie on a dvd5 and see if that works.

    So frustrating. I thought the Ps3 was the last one I had to worry about and it's the ONLY one giving me trouble.
     
  16. ZoSoIV

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    my bet its the DL media isn't compatible with the ps3
     
  17. PacMan777

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    I still can't see why people use PS3s to play DVDs. The PS3 isn't exactly cheap and the use for playing DVDs shortens the lifespan of the equipment. Even if only by a small increment, each DVD played adds up. Players can be had for about $30 to $40 for a decent one. Go figure. ;)

    I'd say ZoSo is right. If the DVD copies are playing in all the standalone players, that shows a good job was done on the backup as far as removing the copy protection and getting the video burned. As mentioned, it looks like a compatibility issue with only the PS3 not playing the copy.
     
  18. greenpaw

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    I got the PS3 because it was bundled with my Sony Bravia LCD for a great price. I think it was about $100 or so cheaper than a standalone Bluray player. I only have it for playing movies. I have just 2 games (baseball and Guitar Hero3 :) )

    Just the day before, I watched "Good Luck Chuck" on the exact same blank DL media (which is Imation) and it played perfectly on the PS3, so I have no idea. I just ran the latest update on the PS3, so I'll try it one more time.

    I made a DVD5 of Shoot em Up movie only and it worked, so it's not a total loss.

    If the PS3 ever dies, I won't replace it, I rarely play games, and Bluray players are comin down in price, so by the time I need one, it will be affordable.
     
  19. rosyhf

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    Hi, I just ripped it with "anydvd" and then opened shrink. It went as smooth as butta lol.
     
  20. dialysis1

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    With that crappy media is most likely the disc. Just because one or two worked doesn't mean they all are gonna work. For DL discs, the only choice should be Verbatim.
     

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