I find that the whole site (all sections) run pretty smoothly. Only occassionally do the forums (either Pink Room or Green Room) give me problems. I have on occassion been able to access the *whole* site _except_ for the forums, but I suspect at those times, dRD (or perhaps Jari) is doing something with them. (mods, updates, tweaking, etc.) Right now they're working fine. (12:19 AM, Dec. 24, Atlantic Time). -- Klingy --