I have an apparently small problem with my CD's burning. I do not know if it is secondary to the WMP 11 (I burned with WMP 10 with my old PC), or it is the new CD hardware (both, LG). I am systematically getting with different sources downloads, at burning the private CD's, very small but clearly listenable, short clicks "after" every track (when I start isolated ones I do not get any click, either at the end of the entire recording...). It sems to be the pass from one track to the next. I do not want to continue getting these imperfect CD's. If there is a problem with WMP 11, I would move to Nero. But if this is a hardware's or software's of the new PC, I have to claim to the store. If you could help me I would be very thankful. I have looked for in the internet but I do not find anything similiar. Also I had written to the music stores, but I got the clicks with files downloaded either form DG or eclassical or Classiconline, equally. Friendly greetings.
The clicks that should not be there are called artifacts. Artifacts are software related not hardware related. As with preparing food there are infinate ways to do it wrong and few to do it right. I prefer to listen to flawless music but I am lazy. Instead of fighting with every step I try to use top of the line software at each step. This saves me lots of work. I know someone that ripped 650+ CDs WMP after I suggested differently. It will take him a few years to realize that was a mistake. I would only rip with EAC (free) or dbPowerAmp (not free). I am still paying for mine because the tag database the paid one uses is the largest. Which means it fines tag data for even the very obscure CDs I rip. I don't like to have to enter the tag info from the cover. I gladly pay $5 a year for that service. I only rip with LAME to an extream quality VBR. I use Media Monkey to burn my CDs. I have never heard an artifact from anything I have done and I have done enough that if there was a problem I would have heard it by now. I do not think Nero is the problem. I don't like Nero but I suspect if Nero is putting the artifacts it is something you are doing wrong. I use what I use because it is so easy to make a perfect copy. I an not saying there are not other tools that will get you there. I can say there are many known artifacts produced by WMA and the apple lossy encoders. These have been out there for a long time. Neither are high quality encoders. I suspect there is not enough interest in having a quality encoder to pay the fix all these problems since they have been known for years and the list grows not shrinks. They do not have extream quality options for lossy. If you want extream quality you have to go lossless. I would never suggest using such a flawed encoder. I do not know about their lossless encoders.
I get the same clicks whether I burn with Nero or Windows Media Player. For unrelated reasons, I wiped my hard drive, re-installed Windows and the other software I need, andtook the opportunity to install a new burner. No difference.
c'mon Mez.. this one is simple.. burn in DAO mode.. not SAO or TAO and the clicks go away.. because in the other burning modes the process stops between tracks or sectors instead of making a temp image and burning it all at once XD
Sorry to disappoint! My audio knowledge is extremely spotty. I am very lazy. Unfortunately, I am cursed with a fairly educated ear. My tolerance for artifacts is extremely poor. I have done as little research as possible and still be able to avoid problems I can hear. I researched encoders in depth. You hear all sorts of differing opinions. You know 90% of the claims are wacked but the only way to know what to believe is to crack a book. Encoders and rippers are the got-yah areas. You can do everything right with the wrong tool and have trash. I picked a top of the line ripper and never had a problem. That is the end of the story for me. I don’t even fully understand the nuances between read modes or the differences between EAC and dbPowerAmp ripper. I will look into that one because I am a bit curious. I will probably even delve into QA. However, this is where my laziness kicks in. When I rip with failed reads, I can rarely hear the problem. If it is only one bad read and I can’t hear the difference, I will only re-clean the surface but I do not do grinding for one or two bad tracks that I can’t hear anything wrong. I believe the QA is more of an intellectual exercise. I am actually fearful I might hear something once I can know the spot. Maybe I will not delve into QA. I don’t want to re-do my library that took 5 years to amass. I am really too extreme to listen to flawed music. I really want to just lose myself in the glory of good music not to analyse it with a microscope. The deal is because I NEVER had a problem with transcoding or burning so I never really looked into it. I am fat dumb and happy!
when I burn audio disks in tao or sao mode I get clicks.. as everywhere predicts.. but in dao no such problem. I do about 10 vinyl to cd conversions a week and I never get clicks.. so possibly something else is up.. but the dao is the accepted solution. Check for buffer underrun.. and normalizing and anything else which could be messing with the actual burning process.. finally.. check the tracks themselves.. they could have clicks at start or end if they have been ripped badly or on a system which is doing far too many other things at the same time. cant help further because I use proper quality software on dedicated systems and a real cd burner.. not a dvd burner
First, 10 vinyl captures on a routine basis is impressive! What format are you burning? I still contend it is a software thing. I have heard several cases of clicking that had to do with encoder incompatibities. I only use Lame or Helix encoders for mp3s. Maybe there is some kind of encoder missmatch somewhere. I do not concider WMP or Nero serious burning software. I can put Media Monkey in the catigory as well. I would toss that in a heart beat if I got so much as a squeek out of it. I would never burn an audio CD for archive with it either. I have better software and if I was making vinyl to CDs instead of mp3 CDs I would not be using MM. If I was preserving something of value, I wouldn't be using junk to do the burn. Still, it is set to use the Lame encoder. You are using a M$ brand of encoder. I don't know, because I don't care, but I bet Nero also uses the M$ encoders for mp3s. I have been using MM for years with no problems. I only burn CDs for my car sterio and that sucks. It is an 'HD sterio' which means it is not pure garbage but it is far from HiFi. I know I would hear any clicking if there was clicking. If you feel like buying your way out, buy the reference version of dbPoweramp. That costs under 30 USDs per year. That version comes with a burner app. If you still have a problem then you have PA tech support. They are good, not garbage like you get with Nero.
