Strange problems TV card / windows MCE

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  1. Deadrum33

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    I know there are other sites in AD for recording TV but this problem seems a little different than most that my searches turned up.
    I can watch movies fine with my Media center and also watch TV (AVermedia 1500MCE) to a certain extent.
    Everything is fine for the first say 5 minutes of watching or recording TV. After that, playback pauses here and there, but the actual recording goes on uninterrupted. So I cant watch it, but it still transfers to file.
    Funny thing is after the first interruption, or pause, all I have to do is use my minimize to tray button (_) and once the program minimizes, the pause stops and I hear the audio with out breaks for another 30 seconds. Than when I restore the window to the screen, the pause stops, playback resumes for another 30 seconds untill the next pause. Then I start over again.
    So my playback keeps up with the signal as long as I keep opening and closing the window, and my record-to output never breaks and for the most part capture is flawless.
    May I add that this problem didnt occur until I built my new system,
    I went from P4 3.0HT with Intel board running XP to an OPteron 175 with Asus A8N32-SLI deluxe running MCE.
    Any ideas out there???
     
  2. elokito

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    post ure pc specs 4 further assistance
     
  3. sukhvail

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    how much ram?? i have problems jus watching a full screen movie on ma temp comp (p4 2.66, 256mb ddr2 ram, 40gb sata hdd- dell optiplex gx280). can you watch the movie if you arent fully maximized? what else do you have running?
     
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    Opteron 175, Asus A8N32-SLI deluxe with latest BIOS running running MCE, OC'd to 2.6 stable (yes the problem still occurs with default settings) 74GB Raptor, Evga 7600GT PCI-E, 2x1GB Corsair 3500 (dual channel)RAM with nothing running in backround that wasnt in my good configuration on old machine (I have turned off extra process like antivirus with no effect).
    Watching movies are no problem, problem is watching TV. I have a cable splitter after my DVR box with 1 lead to my TV and the other to my computer. I can watch the image on TV and computer monitor at the same time. But my machine skips, jumps and lags after awhile, but doesnt have much effect on recording what I'm watching. The display and sound stops unless I minimize (cant see screen then but audio starts back up) or after it pauses minimized, bring it back to full screen and its all good again, but with the splitter I see on TV what is supposedly going to my hard drive but the 2 are always timed differently especially once the computer monitor starts freezing.
     
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    I might ramble and give too much detail sometimes so please let me know if anyone has any ideas, or links where I might continue my search.
    I've been through Windows, AMD, ASUS, and Avermedias knowledge base
    have googled, yahooed, and AD searched about every phrase with the words TV capture, windows MCE, skip, jump, error you name it.
    I'm just frustrated with a dead end in front of me
     
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  6. He_Man

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    it might actually be the device u are using
     
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    Thanks for the reply fists of fury, I mean HE_MAN :)
    I thought of that, and used the card in a different machine with no problems. It wasnt a machine with dual processor AMD or Windows Media Center it was just a basic 3 year old Compaq Presario with P4 2.8 that you could buy anywhere at the time.
    Even though this card is made for media center, do you think it wasn't made with the forsight of the speed of todays machines? I mean it is about 3 years old and built to original MCE specs, well before the 2005 "stable" version, and about the same time if not before that this line of AMD chips came out.
    I look forward to anyone shooting down my theories, it helps me pinpoint problems.
     
  8. sammorris

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    It's a PCI card? There is a known problem with the nForce 4 series of chipsets that can mean certain smooth data stream reliant devices such as sound and video capture cards can have slightly jittery playback every so often due to the occasional lag in the nForce 4 ultra accepting data requests. it causes the occasional sound glitches in using Creative Sound Cards, so I also fall victim to that issue. If you keep providing the system with activity, the chipset can sometimes wake up and not do the glitches. I however find that my problem comes and goes as it pleases. It's never usually bad, but can get annoying. I'll just get one pause, and like 3 hours later, one more. Then the next day I can have it so that audio is unlistenable, I'll restart and it'll be fine...
     
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    I havent had that problem with my Audigy sound card but have read about my chipset causing a few problems, but nothing that wasnt sorted with a driver update. I believe I have latest updates.
    Its just odd how the flow of data when recording is steady to my target folder, but my screen and audio skips and stops. Then as Sammorris describes "wakes up" when I minimize the screen to tray, or once in the tray and pauses, maximize back to full screen. If I can keep clicking the button every 30 seconds I'll be fine right?
     
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    Well yeah, but you shouldn't have to do that. Weird. I also found that my problem solves itself for a bit with a driver update (when it was bad) but the little glitch remains. You have tried giving the program a higher priority right?
     
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    That maybe the one step I'd forgotten. I will experiment with (will start right at the top with real time) after I throw a 1 year birthday party for my daughter today. My nerves are bad enough without a home full of screaming kids and inlaws.
    Thanks for the replies all.
     
  12. He_Man

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    lol! im sure youll survive ;)
     
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    LOL sounds like a right laugh!
     
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    Thanks, I have my digital video camera battery charged, ready to watch her eat her own chocolate cake.
     
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    Ooh, Ooh, can I see?! :)
     
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    Well I had to update this thread to reply to all that I did get things working to a certain extent.
    Through more searches I found threads about problems specific to AMDx2 and my card.
    Heres one http://www.dgstation.co.nz/showthread.php?t=16392

    which led to a page in which I already loaded a driver from a previous search. The dual core optomizer

    http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_871_9706,00.html

    Also, I'd thought I was up to date with windows, but auto updates only do the critical packs so I kicked meself about seeing a software update when I actually went to their hompage and searched myself instead of automatically. As long as I dont play with the screen size and jump between open and close unnecessarily it doesnt skip or fart at me. I looked harder and deeper after my initial searches and turned up things I needed anyway.
    Thanks all.
     
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    Lol why does a driver for a processor sound a bit funny? Hmm, I should probably install this being an X2 owner.
     
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    I agree. Wouldnt something like that have to be inbed in BIOS revision of MOBO? I read what its function was, and it perfectly explained my problems (in less words of course...) but I wonder exactly how it interacts and with what. There must be a little subroutine going saying speed up, no slow down, no faster. Sounds like my wife when I'm driving LOL.
     
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  19. sammorris

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    Except the CPU driver won't make the CPU angry and be detrimental to getting the job done on time! LOL!!!
     

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