I've read through many threads here, and I haven't been able to find a clear solution to my problem. If I have missed it somewhere, I apologize, but alas, here is my problem: I just purchased swap magic 3.2/2.0 for my brand new ps2. I'm assuming my ps2 is the latest version (v10?) since I just purchased it a month or so ago. My ultimate goal is to be able to play my game backups online. I understand the process of needing a disc ID and patching the .iso of the backup image i create. I have the Disc ID utility and I have burned it onto a Memorex CDR using Nero. The process I am unsure about is how exactly to "load" this utility so that I can find the Disc ID of my original game so that I can bypass DNAS with my backup. Here is the process that I have taken that does not seem to work: 1. Load the SwapMagic 3.2 CD disc. 2. At the "load program" prompt, I use my slide card to open the tray. 3. Insert burned Disc ID utility 4. Close tray using slide card 5. Hit X on controller. I get a red line at the top of the screen and then nothing. What steps am I missing if any? Another related question is What are these CDLoader7 and DVDLoader7 utilities for that I have downloaded? Do I need to burn these to a disc and use these every single time I want to load a backed up disc? I thought that Swap Magic was enough to get this done. And yet another question (my last one, sorry): When I try to insert the SwapMagic DVD 2.0 disc, it doesn't seem to work... it just goes to a normal Sony screen that shows an image of a memory card and a disc. does the DVD disc not work with my version of PS2? I haven't actually tried loading a backed up game yet because I want to get this Disc ID utility working before I burn the game... so I don't really know if that will work or not either. I apologize for my newbness and many questions, but then again that's what these forums are for right? Please help. Thanks.