Well, I checked swapmagicfix.com and I downloaded cd loader and cogswaploader for the games I have that need it but my swapmagic cd doesn't work. Thats why I heard people use dvd loader since their swapmagic cd doesn't work either. My question is that does dvd loader work for cogswaploader as it does cd loader? Also, I don't have a dvd burner so I guess I'm out of luck huh? I can't get a dvd loader so is there a way someone can mail me one and I send them money first?