listen, i gotta be honest. i burned at least 10 TY discs and for some reason i got 5 coasters! Could it be because of my cheap-a$$ BTC brand DVD burner? Moreover, can anyone tell me if there's a dvd burner (internal) that will play on ALL dvd players? thanks in advance.
A moderator over at cdrinfo feels that these are B Grade TY and that is why they are selling G02s as 4X. I have burned and scanned a few on my 3500 and 812S and they look genuine at 4X and at 8X for both the G01s and G02 ( I have been shipped both). If he is correct I would keep these at 4X as they are perfect at that burn speed. http://www.cdrinfo.com/forum/tm.asp?m=101727&mpage=1&key=
MyGraine - try burning at a lower speed - maybe a firmware update might help. I personally prefer TY's and have had no problems even burning at 12x- 16x. I use silver injet/ white inkjet and silver thermal TY's mostly -R's. I burn with either a Lite On SOHW832 or Pioneer DVR 108. Since switching to TY's no one has had a problem with my TY -R's
Has anybody actaully recieved TYG02 when they bought any of the 4x TY's that have been on sale recently? I got mine at supermediastore, and they were TYG01, which is genuine A-Grade 4x TY. Its totally possible that that mod has some specific info on the batch he is talking about, but according to all the info I've seen and reported in other posts in that forum, the guy is a little confused. First off, I've never read anything official or verifiable that says that Taiyo Yuden sells different grades. Second, the guy says they are Bgrade, because they can be burned at 8x, but are sold as 4x media. Well, the thing is, most of the newer burners can burn genuine TY media reliably at faster speeds then it is officially rated for. My 8x +r's can be burned at 16x, and my 8x -r's can be burned at 12x. According to that guys reasoning, genuine Taiyo Yuden 8x disks are actaully B-grade 16x and 12x media. lol I could be wrong, but I don't think that guy knows what he's talking about on this matter.
the serial number on the disc tells what speed disc is GDxxxxx are 4x discs GGxxxxx are 8x discs something isn't right because i am sure supermediastore is not being generous and sending everybody 8x discs when 4x discs are being ordered
I would like to order 8x inkjet ty from super media store. Im pretty sure the product code is dvd01x0166. I dont want to make a purchase that isnt what i am looking for. Could anyone push me in the direction of where these tys that i am looking for and all the ones mentioned here are the same ones? Thanks for the help and replys
@mygraine, With the 50% coaster rate you have going, the problem has to be something with your setup. Some burners just don't like some media. I can't imagine you having the same problem with a decent burner. Shop around and compare the new plextor, nec3520, pioneer and lighton. Those are all great burners, and have become pretty cheap lately. You can get the nec 3520 for ~$60 at places like newegg.com.
hey thanks for all the help guys, but another problem that i have is that my successful dvd burn's only work on one of my two dvd players. I received other people's burned dvd's and they play perfectly on both of my dvd players. I use 1clickcopydvd to rip and copy2dvd to burn, are there better programs out there that i might consider?
IMO, DVD shrink and DVD decrypter are much better then those two, plus, they're free. I don't know if it'll fix your problem, but its worth a shot. Follow this link for a guide: http://forum.dvddecrypter.com/index.php?showtopic=7984
Mygraine, It could be your DVD player - are they the same brand? As you can tell it can be anything from the media you use, your burner, software, DVD player etc. Also after you burn a DVD look at the back - does it look like a clean burn (can't see any flaws or multi colored rings) Some DVD players will read through these while others will not. I use AnyDVD with Nero Recode, DVD Shrink or DVD Decrypter with Nero Recode.
Balaam: I have received both 4X G01s and 8X G02s from shop4tech and from supermediastore when I ordered TY 4X -R. They were all wrapped in exactly the same tape wrap and there is no way the dealer could tell that they were G02 or G01. The choice had to be made at the manufacturer. I am also doubtful that these are "B" grade and I have scans that confirm that these are quality. I have to assume TY needs cash for some reason and dumped a load of -R media on the market. See my scans here: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=128171&page=1&pp=25
YUP there the real deal guys got my today and they check out fine.think i will buy another couple 100 packs for that prices.
I don't want to double post; here is the story on these discs: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/164352
Yeesh...seems the more I learn, the more confusing this all becomes. I ordered the TY's and downloaded DVD info after seeing Jim Dandy's post. According to DVD info, both the new TY's and the TDK's I'd been using are both burning flawlessly (or have no reported errors)and the back of the discs look fine. I use labels on some, but not on others. Still, none of this seems to be a good indicator of how the dvds will play on the two or three players I use. On almost every disc I burn there are times throughout when the picture will 'snag', or pause, for the briefest of times, maybe a half second. This I can live with. Other times, the picture will pause indefinitely, and I'll have to access scene selection many times to watch the rest of the film. What's really weird is that my dvds play best on my crappiest player, a $60 Apex I bought three years ago... Anywho, I thought buying the TY's might fix this, but apparantly not. The only other variable I'm unable to consider is DVD info's PIE/PIF 'jitter' test--I have no idea what this is all about, or what a good read looks like. In any event, since we're discussing the quality of the TY discs and whether it is worthwhile to buy them, and based on this information, is there any reason I should continue with the TY's rather than trying another brand? When people speak of the great TY quality, does this also have something to do with the life of the disc? Or something else I haven't considered?
pavement, PI/PIF testing will help give an indication of the quality of the burn. Only some burners support this type of testing. A ton of information is available over at cdfreaks.com. As to TY, I have seen nothing in the scans I ran on these Value discs that would give me any hesitation whatsoever. I would buy more in a minute. I sort of have faith that the worst from TY is better than the best from most others. They still burn better than anything else I have. As to your problems, what kind of burner do you have? That can make a big difference.
I just ran Nero's disc quality test on a YUDEN000 T02 disc that I burned. I have never done this before, but I think the news is bad. See below: General Information Drive: SONY DVD RW DRU-720A Firmware: JY02 Disc: DVD+R (YUDEN000 T02) Selected speed: Maximum PI errors Maximum: 29 Average: 2.33 Total: 22639 PI failures Maximum: 23 Average: 0.53 Total: 7240 PO failures: n/a Jitter: n/a Scanning statistics Elapsed time: 9:53 Number of samples: 125619 Average scanning interval: 1.14 ECC Glitches removed: 2 What does this mean? All of my discs play perfectly in all five standalone players. One is even a six year-old Sony 200 DVD jukebox. Are there other tests I should try?
