Dear ifyoumust! perhaps the whole Deluxe vs. inexpensive DVD player phenomena is like the old adage about buying Televeisions ! In that people used to say that if you went and bought the super deluxe wambo duji model Televison you ran the risk of getting burned by higher & more frequent repair bills due to the fact that the top models had the newest technology which often had'nt sorted out all the bugs yet. where as the 2cnd or 3rd model from the top of the line has 0ften been the better value ! This is due to the lesser expensive models using technology which may be less cutting edge but more proven and established ! I personally own two inexpensive dvd players - A Apex 1010W that I bought about 3 christmases ago and still kicking and a Norcent Technologies model @DP315. Both are what most would term inexpensive dvd players - the APEX 1010W cost about 30.00 at walmart when I bought it and it has serverd me well! for nigh on three years - The Norcent DP 315 dvd player is more recent and was even a better value ! $37.00 @ BestBuy but with a pair of rebates 10.00 from Norcent & 10.00 from bestbuy final cost $17.00 + tax ! I would have preffered to Buy another apex but could'nt beat the price on the Norcent! and To be honest the Norcent seems to be just as good as the Apex & play as well as the apex also. I agree with you that a expensive player should be able to play any disc/media that the less expensive dvd can. written - ie: Burned or prerecorded/ commercially produced (MOVIES) but also my friend please remeber that just as in CD burning you are dealing with burned versus stamped media also reflectivity issues . which is why audio CD's have less compatability issues than Audio CDR's you see the comparison . anyways ifyoumust my friend I do agree with you but in the end you pays your moneyand you takes your chances ! I would highly reccommend that you take some of your Home wriiten DVD's ( MOVIES) with you when shopping for your next DVD player to check for playabilty & functionality! Assuming of course the store you are shopping has players hooked up to a tv/monitor so you can make such an assessment! Good luck on your burning & watching endeavors and peace to you my friend ifyoumust & all my friends at Afterdawn .com Later all!
@BIGTOXY69 - cor, my hangover couldn't cope with that reply, all the words are too bunched up for my eyes. Can you space it out a bit ? cheers
For cryin' out loud, I didn't have a hangover before, but after attempting to read that mess, my head's why out of whack(even more so than usual). What in the world was he thinking when he wrote that? Len
I have every range of DVD player - high-end, middle-end, jukebox, stand-alone, low-end (Yes, I even own a Norcent). My high-end players play everything I own, have rented, or have burned. The Norcent plays 95% of my burned media. My two Sony DVP-NS425P's outshine them all in the end. They will play DVDs that the others will not. Bad burns from the crappy Memorex media I used to buy and scratched discs that wouldn't play in ANY other player. Even my DVP-NS725P won't play these. I see this as an exception and don't expect any player to play these. I never use them to test a burn, because just since they play in these players, doesn't mean they will play elsewhere. If your only reason to buy expensive is because you think it will play burned DVD's better than an inexpensive one, then perhaps that is bad reasoning. Maybe we have beat to death the price issue! I personally would never buy a player so it could simply PLAY a DVD. The Norcent was a gift. I enjoy the features and video quality of $100 plus players.
lmao - ----> 'all the words are too bunched up for my eyes' & 'What in the world was he thinking when he wrote that? ' just jestin
Creaky - no offense meant or taken - nobody get's out alive - apologies to all will try to be less wordy next time peace
Amen to that!! and by the way... what are these 'features' everybody seems so interested in? my dvd player has resume, and that's done automatically, it reads VCD's (really needed a player that could do that) and DIVX (don't care too much about that) and zoom... which i've never even used... other features???? don't know if i care
Good question. Features are only as important as your expectations. I consider features to include video and audio quality. Here are some items that I appreciate in a good DVD player: • Dobly Digital and DTS decoding • Signal-to-Noise Ratio: >115 dB • Dynamic Range: >103 dB (DVD Video & SA-CD); >99 dB (CD) • Harmonic Distortion: <0.003% • HDMI-Interface • Video - Component Video Output x 1 • Video - S-Video Output x 2 • Video - Composite Video Output x 2 • Audio - Analog Audio Output x 2 • Video - Optical Digital and Coaxial Digital Output x 1 • Audio - 5.1 Channel Audio Output (Gold Connectors) • 720P (1080i up-scaling) resolution • DVD/CD Text • Full 3-2 Reverse Conversion • TV Virtual Surround - 4 Surround Modes (say for a bedroom) • Custom Picture Mode (Vivid, Normal, Movie, Professional) A standard Norcent player has no more than one of each input/output, it only has one type of digital audio output (what if you used up your coaxial inputs on a component and you need to use fiber optic?), it does not appear to have gold audio connectors, it has no HDMI interface and with that comes no upconversion, the resolution is about 500 lines, it does not specify if it has DVD/CD text or 3-2 reverse pull down, not sure about Custom Picture Modes, and if I'm reading the specs correctly - No DTS decoding?! Is that true? Try watching "Enemy at the Gates" (using Movie or Professional Picture Mode) on a HDTV with very low lighting in the room. Now that's a cinematic experience! If all this makes you think "who gives a crap", then features are not important to you and you should never pay for them. Also - I am not a hardcore audio or videophile; I do not buy studio quality electronics. Those people would laugh at me if I thought the list of features above was adequate. Everything in this world is relative! If you're happy with what you have, do NOT change a thing!
i use these does anyone know anything about them, MR DVD is the brand. i mean basically if there fakes? they work 100% but i just would like to know if there fakes or not --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R:YUDEN000-T02-000] --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Disc & Book Type : [DVD+R] - [DVD+R] Manufacturer Name : [Taiyo Yuden Co. Ltd.] Manufacturer ID : [YUDEN000] Media Type ID : [T02] Product Revision : [Not Specified] Blank Disc Capacity : [2,295,104 Sectors = 4,482.6MB = 4.38GB (4.70GB)] Recording Speeds : [1x , 2.4x , 4x , 6x-8x] --------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ DVD Identifier - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
my newly purchased (genuine) TY disks are skipping in my kid's old (Samsung 807) standalone player. I'm not happy, back to Verbs for me as this is the first disc (not counting crappy fake bulkpaq) to skip in that player
Isn't that strange. Creaky, I have gone through 300 TY's. The first 100 played almost 100%. The second 100 played about 50%(in my finicky stand-alone, but all played in my Kenwood). I just finished up my third 100pk. and it's again very close to 100% even in the finicky player. I intend to try a pack of 'Verbs' as soon as I see them on sale at a decent price on SuperMediaStore.com. BTW, I am very disappointed in something having to do with that site. I got an e-mail advertising a great sale on 200 Ty's and 200 disc envelops. The sale still had 3 days to run when I tried to order them. They were marked 'out of stock'. I called and talked to 3 different people and couldn't get any satisfaction. I figure that if they advertise something, the least they can do is honor an order with a 'rain check', when there is that much time to run on the sale. Guess they just don't do that on that site. Len
that particular player is the first region-free that came out in the UK, and while old, had hardly been used over the years. However i guess it's a tad picky, and i'm just glad it plays copies considering it's age. At least i can still use the TY's for other machines, or swap 'em with someone for more Verbs. Ah well, can't win them all
The Sony TY's that I have been buying from CompUSA are working at about 99.9%. I have been thru 300+ so far with only one or two bad burns. I still have 350 sitting on my shelves. I have seven players, one stand-alone recorder, and six DVD+/-RW drives. My backups work on all players in my house. I have seen no fluctuation in the quality as appears to be happening with the generic (cakebox) TY's you mention. I have used about 60 generic TY's I bought from Rima.com. They have all worked perfectly. Sucks to have spotty batches - what's up with that?! So far I have been lucky enough to avoid that with my TY's. I went thru my pain with Memorex!!! Although many of those bad burns were caused by Xcopy when it wasn't decoding the DVD perfectly. Shrink/Decrypter don't cause those problems - they are smart enough to crash before burning to disc. Xcopy just breezed right thru the process regardless if the decryption method was perfect. That's all spilled milk now!
djlen, it's possible that since these that deal was for old stock TY 4x they are trying to get rid of, there isn't any point in a raincheck... there may not BE any more coming in. you may notice over time that these places CAN have really uhhh 'interesting' definition and practice of customer service - especially if they are located in the 'city of industry'.
I have been buying 16x Taiyo Yuden media dash at Rima.com for a long time. They have the media I.D. of TYG-03 and they play in everything. The burns are flawless with my NEC 3520A 1UF and my L.G. 4163B A104. I wouldn't buy anything else. 50.00 for 100 and 6.14 for shipping. Not the cheapest but the best.
