Taiyo Yuden, no need

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  1. kivory666

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    completely agree w/ mort81 and everything he said, but wanted to add 1 more note concerning the TYG01s...these silver shiny lacquer finish are NOT printable using the Epson R200/R300 series...just wanted to point that out fxd, in case you are thinking that these TYs are... :)

    secondly, yes, i have been scammed w/ fake TYs from shop4tech, but this was years ago...i have heard from other people that their reputation has improved, however, PERSONALLY, i will never purchase from them again...and i will never advocate anyone buying from them if they ask me where is a reputable place to buy TYs. they seem to have the lowest price for the TYG01s at this time, BUT, i personally will NOT recommend buying from them...as mort stated, supermediastore.com, rima.com, meritline.com for the TYGO1s...you just might get lucky and get the TYG02s instead...i have yet to be so lucky, but, many people have been. :)
     
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  2. aabbccdd

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    and damn meritline is OUT of TYGO1s till mid august so i went with the TYGO2s for 4 bucks more this time making them 36.91 thats still a great deal though

    and hello76 dont think you know it all after a FEW burns .because 50 or 60 burns is NOTING to what most of us have burned like Kivory at over 3000 plus burns and me at around 2000. Most of us have been doing this for years now and have learned alot that you can benifit from if you will listen .So be humble and learn and teach as ddp says
     
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  3. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    @pulsar - well put, and i agree wholeheartedly

    @attar (your username rings a bell, maybe i've advised on your posts re TY Bulkpaq). If i haven't (re Bulkpaq) then i need to now. I have lots of experience (Bad!) with Bulkpaq (TYG02) - [bold]THESE ARE FAKE[/bold], it's safe enough to safe that the ones you have are FAKE too. Someone happily correct me (kivory666?) but i've no doubt that this is the case.

    No-one's punishing original poster or bashing him or anything (am making sure that i say this as don't want any moderators thinking we are being disrepectful). Everyone is entitled to opinions but to give what is the same as bad advice (ie recommending KNOWN bad media) - will cost many people money when it needn't and makes the rest of us look foolish (and like troublemakers) when we then have to give replies stating why that person is wrong to recommend PROVEN bad media.

    We post on afterdawn, but there is life outside of here and crap media is still crap media; we don't all agree with each other in order to gang up on people. I'm trying to word this very carefully as i've been taken to task twice recently and even though that constitutes 0.000001% of the posts i make here, it's enough to make me leave afterdawn.

    - no opinions involved, it's experience that's involved.

    Lastly - i am most definitely not getting at you (see what i mean, i have to justify that i'm NOT getting at someone, what's that about!).

    @gear79 - thank you. I and all of you have experience on these things. Most around here have a wider experience than me regards media, which is fine, i keep me ears open on ALL media threads as best as i can, even if i don't use them (as many of you know i'm a Verb freak, and a newbie to TY; i've virtually finished my first 100 TY, will need to get some more when i can afford to)


    As to PIF scanning, see the 1st link in my sig (attar i'll bet you're in there somewhere!)
     
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  4. attar

    attar Senior member

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    @akyllonen
    In response to your extended (and appreciated) response, here are the various links which I was involved in re these disks.

    http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/207555
    http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/204495
    http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/205303

    The first link includes scans of disk media.
    The TY scan is a typical of my other TY disks.
    As to the genuine-ness of my TY, it's provenance was explored in the other links and declared 'genuine', that despite the fact that one responder saying that my scans were the worst he/she had seen.

    I won't be purchasing any Memorex disks.
    I purchased TY because I accepted the consensus of this forum that they were superior.Either my TY are genuine and junk or the are fake and junk.

    I have no intention of spending more to duplicate what seems to be common knowledge, but since the best scan I received on any disk was the despised 'optodisc' I have doubts about the common knowledge.

    At one point I requested others to display their scan results from a similar 'bulkpack' but had no response.
    Either the buyers simply accepted the implied wisdom in good faith or they couldn't be bothered, or they did and doubted the results, or they did and were satisfied with the results -or maybe I missed their post, mea culpa.

    @creaky
    I never supposed that you were 'getting at' me.
    In fact I relish cogent, courteous, and coherent advice ;)
    'Course I may not allways accept it...
     
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  5. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    @attar - i've re-read those 3 links and now remember the content (sorry my grey cells need a little help remembering things sometimes lol). Anyway, you're quite right, the TY you have were proven genuine a few times. I now alse see i took the world 'bulkpack' above to mean the same as BulkPaq media. Sorry for the confusion there. (Bulkpaq's make me see red like red rag to a bull).

    Pls remind me as i'm groggy today, i feel a little under the weather. Have you had any problems recopying any of the TY at all, or playing them back. Is it just that you unhappy with the results of the scans ?. What i usually say to people on the subject of scanning is to buy top notch media, and once everything is up to date, ie firmware, burn speed, no multitasking yada yada yada, to CRC scan a few disks so you know they're fine, watch a few obviously, and maybe PIF scan a few. All obvious stuff but my point is that i think it's too easy to get worrying about the PIF scan stuff. I see how much effort goes into scanning over at cdfreaks and sometimes i do think they go overboard with it. Most people just want to burn and watch their discs, knowing that they can safely spend their money wisely and not care about redoing it later. In fact i posted a similar comment a few mins ago on cdfreaks - http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=144378&goto=newpost

    Anyway i digress, i'm probably overexplaining again which wasn't my intention. Hopefully you don't think i'm condescending, i just don't feel that extensive PIF scanning is necessary outside of the hallowed halls of cdfreaks, us people just want to burn and watch and not waste money..
     
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  6. arniebear

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    Comparison scans of and Optodisc and TYG02 that I did

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  7. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    and in arniebear's case there, there are some scans that are most definitely worth doing!
     
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    The difference between crap and non-crap. Those Optodiscs were terrible.
     
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  9. attar

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    @arniebear

    Your scans are excellent.
    My scans are excrement.
    We both scanned genuine TY, O.K?

    Now since my TY's are real and conventional wisdom says they are the best, somehow my burner's firmware tells NERO that the scan is poor, but when a no-name brand is inserted, the cunning dog reports less errors!
    I'm going back to alcohol dependency.

    @akyllonen
    Lest we forget.Regarding my media suppliers review feature.

    This E-tailer does not offer Memorex media.
    The reviews of the TY media are uniformly good.
    All reviews of all media are also uniformly good.
    One reviewer who had the temerity to offer a 4.5 out of 5 was referred to as an "idiot" then another offered that he was a "moron".
    So it seems that not all negative remarks are censored.






     
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  10. paiger651

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    fxd2002 if your in the US the canon is an option you can pickup an IP3000 for about 50 dollars after rebate I got mine from newegg.A canon tray off ebay for around 20 bucks.Then make a change to the printer in service mode,download the canon label software for free and your good to go.I get my ink from private abacus for a nickle each.

    Good luck
     
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  11. fxd2002

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    I have the Canon ip300 and love it but I don't understand what I need to convert it. After conversion will it work like a normal printer also? Thanks
     
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    I meant to say IP3000
     
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  13. pulsar

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    @ paiger651 & fxd2002 - What has this got to do with the media discussion going on?
     
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  14. gear79

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    i agree with pulsar, as now the topic has gotten far from the original posted, and i am also pretty sure we will se no more response from hello76 either.
    i also wanted to add (going off topic... my status [bold]finally[/bold] changed..... wooooooooooohoooooooooo
    get well soon creaky !!! hehe
     
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  15. Dewras

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    From an "Oldtimer" but newbie to DVD media, ripping and burning I will always go with experience. I just "backed up" a few movies using Maxell 8x (Ritek 05's) and they worked great. However, I am ordering Taiko Yuden's tomorrow. And thanks for everyones opinion and sharing your experience. That's what these forums are for. One question, my dvd burner supports 16X. Should I purchase the 16X TY dvd media, stay with 8x or go with a slower speed. As I was scanning thru the forums, I thought I read a post saying that the slower speed media is the way to go for backing up movies? I use DVD decrypter, Shrink 3.2 and of course NERO for burning.

    Thanks again.
     
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  16. gear79

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    4x or lower = grade a results on grade a media
     
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  17. paiger651

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    Was only trying to help the guy out maybe he can figure it out on his on..........Im out of here
     
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  18. pulsar

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    @ pager 651, you tried to help a guy, but you hijacked a thread & started talking about something completely different. You just screamed off at a tangent. It is not in the spirit of this forum. You or the other chap should have started a different thread for that!

    Pulsar
     
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    I mentioned earlier in this thread that I use both quality (TY) and budget (Ritek/Ridata) media depending on what it is and who it's for. I recently tried some Prodisc as my new budget brand and they are definitely the worst I've ever tried. They freeze briefly when playing on my player and won't play at all on my PC. I think I'll just stick with my TY and Ritek/Ridata combo.
    I guess I'll have to add the 2 cakeboxes of Prodisc to my stockpile of "given-up-on" media which includes 3 cakeboxes of Memorex, 2 cakeboxes of Mitsumi and 2 cakeboxes of Princo).
     
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    glad to see that cheapy media is showing it's true colours for you :)

    at least you've got some decent stuff too
     
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