I would assume so because when NXE was released, 128 MB of space was required, which is why MS gave away free memory cards and sold discounted hard drives at the time. If you only had a memory card when NXE was released (a big enough one to allow you to update) and still don't own a hard drive, I'd bet that if you plugged that memory card into a different console that didn't have the latest dashboard on it, you would be prompted to update. I've not tried it, so I can't confirm that that's true, but it's definitely the case with hard drives. You can even update via a USB stick or burned CD/DVD. That's what I did when NXE was leaked. I downloaded the files, put them on a USB stick, attached it to my console, and it prompted me to update.
then thier detection scheme has to originate in some form on the HDD. Probably not as a whole but as in a back door patch for remote access. if thats the case then what is keeping someone from writing some small code of their own to spoof M$ detection scheme on the same HDD...possibly even blocking it with a fake "all clear signal"
So people here who have been banned in the UK in the past few days, please confirm what Drives and Firmware you have. There may be a pattern, ie dodgy Benq 1.61 as opposed to Samsung for example.
There is no pattern. We've been through this with each ban wave. There is absolutely no reason to clog up this thread with useless info. A simple search through this forum and other 360 forums will give you all the info you're asking for. This happens every time there's a ban wave. A couple dozen newcomers will join (not pointing fingers at you specifically), they'll all start new threads or hijack others, asking the same exact question, clogging up the forums, then we'll never hear from them again. Don't take offence, I'm just saying that if you start that here in this thread the only outcome will be that this thread will be closed. There's already a "banned" thread full of that info.
Copy that. No offence taken, Im just one of thousands that wants something for nothing so of course looking for ways to remain active online.
same guys follow reason i got banned i didnt play new games or anything i got firware 1.51 benq days ago play all old games i didnt update my dasboard and last night i update it then in this morining i try to connect xbox live automatily ban me people can buy news xbox live card or forever ban the system
Not to start a conspiracy theory or anything but lets look at this and state some facts... There was a ban wave in 2007 around this time...not sure what the main blockbusters were around this time of the year (World at war, assassins creed, mass effect i think) http://www.techspot.com/news/27938-microsoft-starts-new-ban-wave-against-xbox-360-modders.html Gears of War 2 leaked early in 2008 and then boom a ban wave. The actual release date was Nov 7th I believe. (This is the ban that got me) Now here we are November again...another ban wave. So what can we take from this? Obviously the fall updates is to do more than update our dashboards. But from a business standpoint it make sense to do this in November. What is the busiest shopping day of the year??? The day after thanksgiving! And honestly How many of us rushed out to get a new box in 2007 or 2008 to play those holiday blockbusters? So here we are 2009 and we have several blockbusters coming out. MW2, AC2, L4D2, Forza 3...all of this is M$ way to milk money out of us (lost money for games we pirated) I would not surprise me if they have a data base intact with linking ip address, gamertags and even consoles together to detect us. To add to the stupidity, how many of us are in forums like afterdawn, xbox iso...etc, with our gamertag.net signature/xbox profile name boasting about our thievery? We have to get smarter!!! Has anyone thought that maybe M$ has know all along that we have copied games and have strategically chosen when to ban us???
same here...I've even been guilty of it myself. I havent been banned but I don't play online either. I'm sure after a few weeks we will all be in the clear but of course how many Xboxes will have been sold. Keep an eye on the xbox 360 console sales this qtr and lets see how much they have increase
does anyone think the ban waves happen during this time could be because of the games that come out at this time. these games which could bring millions more in revenue ,plus since xmas is round corner so games sales would be higher than anytime of the year. codmw2, battlefield, gta 4, forza, band hero, fifa among other games. these games combined with the fact that xmas is round the corner are gonna bring high amount of sales. so maybe ms dont want their sales figures effected so they started the banning process this time of year. just a hunce tho.
I got banned today and live in Stockholm, Sweden. This is on a 1.6 fw lite-on drive using an activate.iso disc to boot wave4 games.
I have had my xbox360 for a little more then half a year. I'm running 1.51 Ben-Q. I play many, many xbox360 games on xbl and off xbl. All my games are copied and they all seemed to work great with no problems until the recent ban wave which got me too. Here is the thing I would like to point out. I used to download a game or two a week all checked by abgx360 all passed burned it played it. It wasn't until recently that my friend let me borrow his usenet account to download games. Within a week I had downloaded over 30+ games to my collection now totaling around 80. Before I would keep track of the games I downloaded and played and made sure not to play early before release date but after been giving the opportunity to download all and whatever games I wanted within a certain time frame I got overly excited and started getting sloppy. I went through so many games so fast I forgot to take the normal safety measures like say Forza 3 yea I downloaded it a few days before it came out and I even played it. The game that really flagged me though I believe would have been tekken 6 for I had downloaded the game a week early not being able to play it normally for it is a Wave 4 game and could not be read by my 1.51 Ben-Q with the normal methods of burning with abgx360 I went out of my way and found the Wave 4 to Wave 3 patch just to get it to run on my system and it did even though it didn't fully past abgx360 test due to verification and such. I even went online the day of the release date and it was all gravy until about a week after after the dashboard update or whatever that I had been banned. I was very frustrated for a few days and after coming to realization I have to admit I believe I fucked up. I didn't follow the rules and not only that I realize it was like me rubbing it in M$'s face saying that they can't do shit about it and so they did.
Honestly right now the only game I care to play is MW2 and I don't mind spending $60 on it. I have been waiting all year on this game As of when I checked the other night, my lite-on 1.51 was still NOT banned. Seeing as there is still no ETA on 1.61 for lite-on I will likely just buy the game (there's a new concept) and play it until this mess is figured out or I get banned, whichever comes first.
I hope i'm right otherwise i'm going to look stupid. It does NOT matter. If you have played 1 'copied' game you already are unning the risk.
A good point, I don't doubt Microsoft has someone on the payroll that goes to check the popular sites for modding and flags those gamertags. They may not ban based on it, but I bet they watch their logs a lot closer....only reason I say is because my last employer used the same tactic to keep tabs on customers scamming the company out of airtime and data costs (worked for a cellphone company).