Been looking at the HP m8120n, which has Vista Home Premium, of course. I've been curious about the new DRM that Vista has, and how it will affect backing up my dvd collection. Will I run into any ripping/burning issues? Also, will the following programs work in Vista: RipIt4Me, DVDecrypter, DVDShrink, Nero 7, ConvertXtoDVD, and ImgBurn? TIA for all the help..
the copy/paste method always pisses me off in the first place so if thats how you plan on doing it then i feel sorry for you but on the program side of things i have used about half of those programs on vista without problem and there should be no reason that the other half shouldn't work.
what is the "copy/paste method" and why does it piss you off? I have no idea what you mean by that statement. Which half of the programs have you used? Thanks.
I am in the same boat as Dubu...... I am also thinking of updating from XP to Vista...... and I have the same programs as Dubu and more! I downloaded Windows Vista Upgrade Adviser from Microsoft.com. It showed only 2 discrepancies with VSO pcouffin device, which is used with ConvertXtoDVD and all the other burning software with VSO! This is the only reason why I am discouraged to upgrade to Vista. But I am still interested and because of a recent incident with XP (I uninstalled a program and it took my desktop and windows task bar away and couldn't do anything with my computer). So now after re-installing XP and finally getting Windows to do all the upgrades again...... I am back to normal! the only thing left that is flookie is my Firefox not allowing Internet Explorer to open up web pages ..... it goes right into Firefox! And I want to use Internet Explorer! I'm actually thinking about uninstalling Firefox! what ever.
i have just built a new system so i decided to try vista ultimate before i loaded xp just to have a look. maybe i was lucky that all the hardware was new but i haven't had any problems yet. programmes that i am currently using = anydvd,clone dvd,vso convert x,nero,tmpgenc dvd author. hope if you try vista you are as lucky as me
I'm seriously thinking about it. Hope that Dubu will have luck with Vista, too. thanks for the info, Ifc4ever.
by copy/paste method of dvd ripping i mean that i hate looking at the contents of the dvd in the file browser, selecting everything, choosing copy, then paste into my HD. this is often very time consuming and often doesn't work hence it pissing me off. i have succesfully used nero, imgburn and dvdshrink
using this method does not take out encryptions so of course you would get pissed off with all the time you spend trying to copy large files and it often doesn't work! you need programs that take the encryptions out to allow the copying of the DVD!
I never would've thought of doing a copy/paste to backup a dvd. I've always used a program, or several, and burned it directly to a dvd. If I want to keep it on my computer, I rip it to another format like divx or something. But that still doesn't answer my initial question of how vista DRM will affect my backing up of my dvd collection, if at all. I've just heard things about Vista somehow being closely tied to RIAA/MPAA...
the DRM wont have any affect on your backing up of dvds. i do it all the time with mine, while running vista ultimate, and have yet to ran into a problem while backing up my movies. been using anydvd to crack it, and one click to back it up, and burning with clonedvd2. also image burn works bc i use it to back up all my 360 games. and use nero for burning cds, so you will be fine with all your programs you use. also you can right click, properties, and set it to run as if you were using windows xp if you do run into any problems, so you shouldnt have anything to worry about.
I'm convinced! the only thing I hear is that Microsoft already has another new OS coming out in a year or so! Anything to make more money.
Thanks wabashman...that really cleared things up for me...The decision's made now, hopefully I'll be picking it up within the next couple of weeks. IHoe, what's this about a new OS? Do you have any links?
Well, I know it's been a while, but I finally got my new system; it just arrived yesterday. I got the HP 6152 from Circuit City. It's an Intel Quad Core w/ 3gigs RAM...very similar to the m8120n I had been looking at, but a better price. I do absolutely no gaming, so the vid card wasn't as important to me, and this was a little better price than the 8120. So far, I love it! Vista takes a little getting used to, but after just one day, I think I'm getting it. It's funny, because I still have my xp system hooked up, and when I switch back to it, it seems all boxy and archaic; kind of like going from xp to windows 3.1 or something. Ripped Meet the Fockers last night just as a test. I used RipIt4Me, DVDecrypter, and DVDShrink. There seems to some trouble with Decrypter and Vista. Some errors at the end, when decrypter was finished, but I think they were more like notifications, because DVDShrink started right up. DVDShrink ran incredibly fast! Maybe I'll try DVDFabDecrypter....does that work with RipIt4Me like the old DVDecrypter did?
I JUST HAD TO POST THIS and do not for get vista is drm movie studios approved Forget about the WGA! 20+ Windows Vista Features and Services Harvest User Data for Microsoft- From your machine! By: Marius Oiaga, Technology News Editor Enlarge picture Are you using Windows Vista? Then you might as well know that the licensed operating system installed on your machine is harvesting a healthy volume of information for Microsoft. In this context, a program such as the Windows Genuine Advantage is the last of your concerns. In fact, in excess of 20 Windows Vista features and services are hard at work collecting and transmitting your personal data to the Redmond company. Microsoft makes no secret about the fact that Windows Vista is gathering information. End users have little to say, and no real choice in the matter. The company does provide both a Windows Vista Privacy Statement and references within the End User License Agreement for the operating system. Combined, the resources paint the big picture over the extent of Microsoft's end user data harvest via Vista. Reading Between the EULA Lines Together with Windows Vista, Microsoft also provides a set of Internet-based services, for which it has reserved full control, including alteration and cancellation at any given time. The Internet-based services in Vista "coincidentally" connect to Microsoft and to "service provider computer systems." Depending on the specific service, users may or may not receive a separate notification of the fact that their data is being collected and shared. The only way to prevent this is to know the specific services and features involved and to either switch them off or not use them. The alternative? Well, it's written in the Vista license agreement. "By using these features, you consent to the transmission of this information. Microsoft does not use the information to identify or contact you." The Redmond company emphasized numerous times the fact that all information collected is not used to identify or contact users. But could it? Oh yes! All you have to know is that Microsoft could come knocking on your door as soon as you boot Windows Vista for the first time if you consider the system’s computer information harvested. Microsoft will get your "Internet protocol address, the type of operating system, browser and name and version of the software you are using, and the language code of the device where you installed the software." But all they really need is your IP address. What's Covered in the Vista License? Windows Update, Web Content, Digital Certificates, Auto Root Update, Windows Media Digital Rights Management, Windows Media Player, Malicious Software Removal/Clean On Upgrade, Network Connectivity Status Icon, Windows Time Service, and the IPv6 Network Address Translation (NAT) Traversal service (Teredo) are the features and services that collect and deliver data to Microsoft from Windows Vista. By using any of these items, you agree to share your information with the Redmond Company. Microsoft says that users have the possibility to disable or not use the features and services altogether. But at the same time Windows update is crucial to the security of Windows Vista, so turning it off is not really an option, is it? Windows Vista will contact Microsoft to get the right hardware drivers, to provide web-based "clip art, templates, training, assistance and Appshelp," to access digital software certificates designed "confirm the identity of Internet users sending X.509 standard encrypted information" and to refresh the catalog with trusted certificate authorities. Of course that the Windows Vista Digital Rights Management could not miss from a list of services that contact Microsoft on a regular basis. If you want access to protected content, you will also have to let the Windows Media Digital Rights Management talk home. Windows Media Player in Vista for example, will look for codecs, new versions and local online music services. The Malicious Software Removal tool will report straight to Microsoft with both the findings of your computer scan, but also any potential errors. Also, in an effort to enable the transition to IPv6 from IPv4, "by default standard Internet Protocol information will be sent to the Teredo service at Microsoft at regular intervals." Had Enough? I Didn't Think So! Microsoft has an additional collection of 47 Windows Vista features and services that collect user data. However, not all phone home and report to Microsoft. Although the data collection process is generalized across the list, user information is also processed and kept on the local machine, leaving just approximately 50% of the items to both harvest data and contact Microsoft. Still, Microsoft underlined the fact that the list provided under the Windows Vista Privacy Statement is by no means exhaustive, nor does it apply to all the company's websites, services and products. Activation, Customer Experience Improvement Program (CEIP), Device Manager, Driver Protection, Dynamic Update, Event Viewer, File Association Web Service, Games Folder, Error Reporting for Handwriting Recognition, Input Method Editor (IME), Installation Improvement Program, Internet Printing, Internet Protocol version 6 Network Address Translation Traversal, Network Awareness (somewhat), Parental Controls, Peer Name Resolution Service, Plug and Play, Plug and Play Extensions, Program Compatibility Assistant, Program Properties—Compatibility Tab, Program Compatibility Wizard, Properties, Registration, Rights Management Services (RMS) Client, Update Root Certificates, Windows Control Panel, Windows Help, Windows Mail (only with Windows Live Mail, Hotmail, or MSN Mail) and Windows Problem Reporting are the main features and services in Windows Vista that collect and transmit user data to Microsoft. This extensive enumeration is not a complete illustration of all the sources in Windows Vista that Microsoft uses to gather end user data. However, it is more than sufficient to raise serious issues regarding user privacy. The Redmond company has adopted a very transparent position when it comes to the information being collected from its users. But privacy, much in the same manner as virtualization, is not mature enough and not sufficiently enforced through legislation. Microsoft itself is one of the principal contributors to the creation of a universal user privacy model. The activation process will give the company product key information together with a "hardware hash, which is a non-unique number generated from the computer's hardware configuration" but no personal information. The Customer Experience Improvement Program (CEIP) is optional, and designed to improve software quality. Via the Device Manager, Microsoft has access to all the information related to your system configuration in order to provide the adequate drivers. Similarly, Dynamic Update offers your computer's hardware info to Microsoft for compatible drivers. Event Viewer data is collected every time the users access the Event Log Online Help link. By using the File Association Web Service, Microsoft will receive a list with the file name extensions. Metadata related to the games that you have installed in Vista also finds its way to Microsoft. The Error Reporting for Handwriting Recognition will only report to Microsoft if the user expressly desires it to. Through IME Word Registration, Microsoft will receive Word registration reports. Users have to choose to participate in the Installation Improvement Program before any data is sent over at Microsof. Ever used a print server hosted by Microsoft? Then the company collected your data through Internet Printing. Network Awareness is in a league of its own. It does not premeditatedly store of send directly information to Microsoft, but it makes data available to other services involving network connectivity, and that do access the Redmond company. Via Parental Controls, not only you but also Microsoft will monitor all the visited URLs of your offspring. Hashes of your Peer Name tied to your IP address are published and periodically refreshed on a Microsoft server, courtesy of the Peer Name Resolution Service. Every time you install a Plug and Play device, you tell Microsoft about it in order to get the necessary device drivers. The same is the case for PnP-X enabled device, only that Windows Update is more actively involved in this case. The Program Compatibility Assistant is designed to work together with the Microsoft Error Reporting Service, to highlight to Microsoft potential incompatibility errors. For every example of compatibility settings via the Compatibility tab, Microsoft receives an error report. The Program Compatibility Wizard deals with similar issues related to application incompatibility. File properties are sent to Microsoft only with the item that they are associated with. You can also volunteer your name, email address, country and even address to Microsoft through the registration process. A service such as the Rights Management Services (RMS) Client can only function in conjunction with your email address. All the queries entered into the Search box included in the Windows Vista Control Panel will be sent to Microsoft with your consent. The Help Experience Improvement Program also collects and sends information to Microsoft. As does Windows Mail when the users access Windows Live Mail, Hotmail, or MSN Mail. And the Windows Problem Reporting is a service with a self explanatory name. But is this all? Not even by a long shot. Windows Genuine Advantage, Windows Defender, Support Services, Windows Media Center and Internet Explorer 7 all collect and transmit user data to Microsoft. Don't want them to? Then simply turn them off, or use alternative programs when possible or stop using some services altogether. Otherwise, when your consent is demanded, you can opt for NO. What Happens to My Data? Only God and Microsoft know the answer to that. And I have a feeling that God is going right now "Hey, don't get me involved in this! I have enough trouble as it is trying to find out the release date for Windows Vista Service Pack 1 and Windows Seven!" Generally speaking, Microsoft is indeed transparent – up to a point – about how it will handle the data collected from your Vista machine. "The personal information we collect from you will be used by Microsoft and its controlled subsidiaries and affiliates to provide the service(s) or carry out the transaction(s) you have requested or authorized, and may also be used to request additional information on feedback that you provide about the product or service that you are using; to provide important notifications regarding the software; to improve the product or service, for example bug and survey form inquiries; or to provide you with advance notice of events or to tell you about new product releases," reads a fragment of the Windows Vista Privacy Statement. But could Microsoft turn the data it has collected against you? Of course, what did you think? "Microsoft may disclose personal information about you if required to do so by law or in the good faith belief that such action is necessary to: (a) comply with the law or legal process served on Microsoft; (b) protect and defend the rights of Microsoft (including enforcement of our agreements); or (c) act in urgent circumstances to protect the personal safety of Microsoft employees, users of Microsoft software or services, or members of the public," reveals another excerpt. And you thought that it was just you... and your Windows Vista. Looks like a love triangle to me... with Microsoft in the mix. http://news.softpedia.com/news/Forg...tures-and-Services-Harvest-User-Data-for-Micr osoft-58752.shtml
So, Irland? when a few years pass and the XP machines are all going down and we are all forced to buy new machines with Vista in there..... what recourse do we really have????
IHoe i will worry about that after 2014 vesta is not selling like ye think it is.. vista is known as windows me 2 It’s interesting to see how people now seems totally confused about when Windows XP is actually going away. Short story: it’s not 2008 and you will be able to get support until April 2014. more news, Windows XP SP3 Released To Small Group In addition to the previously reported Windows Vista SP1 drop to testers, Microsoft has just recently (few days ago) dropped a copy of Windows XP Service Pack 3 in the lap of the same small group of testers. Coming in at less than 350MB, the service pack includes fixes for over 900 reported problems, some of which have already been resolved with post-Service Pack 2 hotfixes. For the hardcore build string collectors, this build is tagged 5.1.2600.3180 (xpsp.070718-2058)
you mean that that XP is going to get better and better? or will it be mixed with Vista like add ons....... you say that Internet Explorer 7 has user data harvest and reports back to Microsoft or Redmond Company. Does upgrading to IE7 using XP do the same data harvest and reporting as in Vista?
Ok. When you let MS scan your computer to install updates and patches does it keep that info? It has all updates listed after installation. Waiting for Linux to improve its PC apps and drivers. aND fIREFOX3. As a newbie to Linux didn't like generic drivers or understand compiling. Really kills interest. Bad enough I had to teach myself how to start a computer and to use Windows, Word, Video. Buggy Windows. Maybe all these updates phone home new PC data. New ones everyother day. Aw, porn on this computer! Get the PC police! Oink Oink! Server apps, same OSs on more than 1 computer! OFF WITH YOUR HEAD!
