TMPGEnc gives error that AVI file is too big

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  1. Oxyclean

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    I am trying to encode a 696 meg AVI to mpeg-2 format. I am usint TMPGEnc to do this. When I get to the end of the wizard where it shows disc usage its over 131% of the dvd-r disc! I am using a standard 4.7G dvd-rw. I have also tried to encode it as a SVCD file as I have read on the forums that these look as good as vhs. The file then take up 87% of the disc. This is no good either as dvd-rw's are not cheap and I was hoping to put more svcd files on the disc. Anyone know how to fix this problem? Thanks in advance.
     
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    You're probably talking about a movie you downloaded, encoded with the mpeq4 v3 hack. load this into virtual dub, which may give you a message that vbr blah blah blah. go to audio full process, conversion and set it to 16 bit,44100hz. go to compression and set it to mpeg layer 3. then go to video compression and set it to whichever codec you wish and recompress. if your audio comes out out of sync you may have to pull the audio off, process it seperately and then mux it back into the movie. worked for me.
     
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    Thanks Im trying that as I speak. Ill let you know how it works out.
     
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    Ive just finished doing my second one and it looks like the process has to be this:
    1. pull the audio off as uncompressed PCM,16 bit, 44100hz.(this is in the convert option)
    2. pull the video off as anything you want
    3. load them both up into virtual dub and mux them, compressing the audio to Mpeg Layer 3, or whichever, leaving it 16 bit, 44100.(the uncompressed audio is too large.)
    Ive been working on this for a week, trial and error.
     
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    Using Virtualdub is overkill, adding an entirely unnecessary step and you greatly lowering your end quality by putting it through an extra compression run.
    TMPGEnc is already re-encoding (compressing) your file, and all you have to do is set a lower bitrate so that it will fit onto one disk.
    On the wizard screen entitled "Bitrate setting" you can select "DVD-r 4.7GB" as your media type and then set the "% of disk capacity" at 97 or 98%. This way TMPGEnc will automatically set a bitrate that will allow the final file to fit perfectly on one DVDr
     
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    If you'll read the original post, it says he/she doesnt want to use up a whole DVD with one SVCD movie. THATS what i call overkill. As downloaded one of my movies takes up 8 gigs if I convert with TmpGenc. Id have to do a hell of alot of squeezing to get it down to one disc. However, you can pull the audio off, and comppress it back with the original file, without any need to recompress the video, and end up with a MUCH smaller file. I just did it.
     
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    Then just set "% of disc capacity" to 48% or 30% or whatever portion of the disc you want to use. Regardless, the virtualdub step is overkill...
    The original post says he wants to go to convert from AVI to MPEG2. No reason to go through all of that trouble in Virtualdub when TMPEnc will do all the re-encoding for you in one go - yielding whatever file size you want to end up with.
     
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    youll lose a hell of alot more quality that way than recompressing.
     
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    One way or the other he has to convert it to an MPEG2 file. The AVI that Virtualdub produces will not put him any closer to being able to play the movie on a standalone DVD player.
    Virtualdub would just yield another AVI file that has been re-encoded yet another time (Virtualdub does not compress, it encodes) via TMPGEnc before it can be authored into a DVD or an SVCD. What the Virtualdub step will do is give you a lower quality source file to covert to DVD or SVCD from.
     
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    well, i tried it and the image wasnt watchable, but im going to svcd not dvd so maybe thats the difference. if i use vdub to encode with divx502 pro, then use tmpgenc it gives me a file i can put on two cds and is good quality. if i go straight to tmgenc and try to fit it on two cds, the image is really bad. maybe going to dvd is diffent. i dont do dvd.
     
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    Sorry man, I didn't mean to be too aggressive. I'm just trying to help, and I just can't see why a downloaded AVI file needs to do through two more encodes to get to DVD or SVCD (or DVD)format.
    But whatever, different processes are preferred by different people, and you should keep doing what works for you. I hope Oxyclean has gotten his problem sorted out also.
     
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    to tell you the truth, i don't understand and i wish someone could explain it, but these 700 meg downloads turn into 8 gig files if i process directly through tmpgenc. beats the hell out of me.
     
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    Have you tried the program DVD2SVCD? It accepts AVI files as an input also, and once it is set up it provides pretty much one-click conversion that can generate either an SVCD iso or a titleset. It doesn't get any easier than this:

    http://www.dvd2svcd.org/

    A pretty good guide is available at:

    http://www.doom9.org/

    (Go to the guides section, select "Format Conversion", then select "AVI to SVCD using DVD2SVCD")
     
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    Using Virtual Dub I was able to re-encode the source to an avi that would be properly compressed by TMPGEnc. Now I need dvd authoring software to get a VOB file that nero will burn to dvd. I downloaded the ulead demo but it ask for a disk. I have redownloaded the demo from their site but still no luck. If anyone knows of an alternative that offers a demo please let me know.
     

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