To all my analog brothers.

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  1. riplord

    riplord Guest

    I just ordered a belt for my marantz model 6100 that was given to me by my grandpa. He told me that if you put a little talcum powder on it the belt will last longer. Is this true? I've searched with some mixed results, can anyone do me a favor and give me a straight answer?
     
  2. gerry1

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    I'm no authority on the subject but found this: scroll down more toward the bottom:

    http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread/t-77997.html


    "Talc is recommended by many turntable manufacturers for use on turntable drive belts - it also absorbs oily deposits caused by handling the belt without cotton gloves, which is another recommendation by manuafacturers to reduce wow. I think talc also acts to cause some slippage, to prevent the belt stretching too much when the turntable is initially starting up. I think it's probably a good thing to use occasionally, depending on how much use your turntable gets. Some manufacturers also recommend cleaning the section that the belt bears on on the motor pulley and turntable pulley, using something like methylated spirits, to prevent a build up of rubber causing wow or flutter."
     
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  3. The_Fiend

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    I'm no authority either, but indeed a little bit of talcum powder rubbed onto the belt every few months will do wonders, next to indeed cleaning it and the turntablr every half year or so.
     
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  4. GrandpaBW

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    No authority here, either, because the 3 turntables that I bought, way back when, were all direct drive turntables. No belt. One Garrard, and two Technics, the last of which is sitting about 4' from me right now. I still use it, along with my old Pioneer SX-9000 amplifier, to dump my LP's to my hard drive. :)
     
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  5. gamename

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    i have technics turn table direct drive myself, along with a g9000 sansui amp/reciever and 2 pioneer hpm 150s. this system out preforms all of my newer stuff. my newer stuff is yamaha reciever/amp and kilpsch speakers. dont get me wrong this is a great system, but it doesent have the same sound-not even close.
     
  6. aabbccdd

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    actually my thinking is the talcum powder would dry the belt out more and make it crack faster and shorten the life. check with a highend audio shop(not best buy lol) in your area an asked
     
  7. garmoon

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    I still use my Dual 1219 now 34 yrs old to digitize my old LPs and never had any problems. Also a direct drive. Magnetic cartridges are Shure expensive lately though.
     
  8. aabbccdd

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    and man dont you just love the sound quality of vinyl records over cds a MUCH warmer sound
     
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  9. gerry1

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    A couple of weeks ago, someone (ireland I think) posted some information about a component that reads vinal by laser. Very expensive if memory serves.
     
  10. ireland

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    that is the truest statement i heard in a long time..
    mp3 do not have the good quality of the old records.
    and i do have a ton of records i put on tape..
    and the best part i did not have to use a computer or worry about copy protection...
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    Re: High price, low-fi music. By: Reader's Write 25 Dec, 2005 08:22

    I remember buying records when they were vinyl. I loved nothing better than to set it up and listen to it on a good stereo and plow through the artwork. There was something magical in that sense of it belonged to you. I would take off the wrapping, carefully slide it out of the wrapper, lay it on the turntable, clean it, and then carefully adjust the controls while it started playing and then lay back with that artwork and just enjoy the magic.

    That's no longer part of the listening experience. The magic is gone. So is the artwork. With the mp3, the ambience isn't there and I can't hear the stick hit the cymbol before it rings. Nor can I hear the guitar pick hit the string the moment before the string rings. Whats worse, the price for this junk has gone up and I can't legally put it on the reel to reel to enjoy as a long playing tape that doesn't need to be fooled with for a long time. Mp3's don't do it for that sort of equipment. You always hear what is missing and notice it missing. That's not quality. Nor is it worth a dollar for that sort of subpar product, even if the artists were as good as they were then (and their not for the most part).

    I see nothing desirable in the music today. Not from the subject range, not from the artists, not from the quality. Worse, the majority of the music I see today that I might be interested in, I already have. I don't need to buy Greatest Hits because I have the originals. Those originals are not hampered with any sort of anticopy. If I want a cassette, ok, if I want a cd, that's ok too. No hassles and no issues in how I want to use them.

    Someone in the cartels have forgotten that how the buyer wants to use the music is everything. Without that, there isn't much need in buying a rental limited edition that isn't worth the money to begin with. But lets really make it good and give out free rootkits and spyware that you can't cancel or refuse. Yeap, sounds like a real bargain to me.

    At this rate, I'll pass on the next 20 years of what is called music by the cartels as I see nothing worth spending the money on.
    http://p2pnet.net/index.php?page=comment&story=7414&comment=26951


     
  11. ireland

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    'Product' versus 'music'

    p2p news view / p2pnet: Organized Music members Sony BMG, Vivendi Universal, EMI and Warner Music are steadily losing ground on all fronts as they try to gain control of how, and by whom, music is distributed online.

    Credibility? They've never had any.

    Below, in a comment post to Big Music mp3 price fixing, a p2pnet reader remembers the good old days »»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»

    The magic is gone

    I remember buying records when they were vinyl. I loved nothing better than to set them up and listen to them on a good stereo and plow through the artwork.

    There was something magical in that sense of it belonged to you.

    I'd take off the wrapping, carefully slide it out of the wrapper, lay it on the turntable, clean it, and then carefully adjust the controls while it started playing, and then lay back with that artwork and just enjoy the magic.

    That's no longer part of the listening experience. The magic is gone. So is the artwork.

    With the mp3, the ambience isn't there and I can't hear the stick hit the cymbol before it rings. Nor can I hear the guitar pick hit the string the moment before the string rings. What's worse, the price for this junk has gone up and I can't legally put it on the reel to reel to enjoy as a long playing tape that doesn't need to be fooled with for a long time.

    Mp3's don't do it for that sort of equipment. You always hear what's missing and notice it's missing. That's not quality. Nor is it worth a dollar for that sort of sub-par product, even if the artists were as good as they were then (and they're not for the most part).

    I see nothing desirable in the music today. Not from the subject range, not from the artists, not from the quality. Worse, the majority of the music I see today that I might be interested in, I already have. I don't need to buy Greatest Hits because I have the originals. Those originals are not hampered with any sort of anticopy. If I want a cassette, ok, if I want a CD, that's ok too.

    No hassles and no issues in how I want to use them.

    Someone in the cartels has forgotten that how the buyer wants to use the music is everything. Without that, there isn't much need in buying a rental limited edition that isn't worth the money to begin with.

    But let's really make it good and give out free rootkits and spyware that you can't cancel or refuse. Yeap, sounds like a real bargain to me.

    (Monday 26th December 2005)
    http://p2pnet.net/story/7418
     
  12. geestar20

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    I still use Vinyl records today to do all my mixing with my 1200's (Technics).

    Nothing beats the true feeling of Vinyl!!
     
  13. aabbccdd

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    and oh yeah the smell of a vinyl record is the best . yes ireland most new music really blows plus the format they put it on .vinyl will live forever something the younger kids well never get or understand.

    in 50 or 100 years Bands like Led Zeppelin,Black Sabbath ,Miles Davis,Robert Johnson etc. will be part of music history where as someome like jayz will be a pimple on the ass of music history !!
     
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    alot of the best remixes are on vinyl, especially from hip-hop.

    BTW, where is -djscoop-?
     
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  15. aabbccdd

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    his around some not much though kinda like you man ,glad to see you posting as of late
     
  16. garmoon

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    Yeah aabbccdd I much prefer listening to vinyl than cds. All the little imperfections and all. Kids today don't know what good music is. I can't remember the last time I bought a cd. And Oh the album art was terrific. The good old days. At my age it's getting harder to remember the good old days. LMAO
     
  17. aabbccdd

    aabbccdd Guest

    the art work was the best on vinyl
     

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