Trouble playing backup cd's in the car cd player

I'm having trouble playing cd's in the car cd player, what happens is that when i play an original yet very scratched cd it will play without mayor trouble, but if i try to play a backup or some compilation i did and burn on a cd it doesn't , even if the cd is new and without a scratch
-Some backups work and some don't
-When i play the backups at home all of them play perfectly
-It seems that the car stereo has trouble detecting the backups

I'm using sony and verbatim cd's to burn my cds and Nero software

Thanks in advance
(P.s. i know my english sucks)

 

First your English is great. Better that some who only have one language.

Are these audio disk format? Mp3 format can have more issues.

Your disk media is not the problem. Nero might be a problem it has a tendency to burn everything too fast.

I do not have enough information to solve the problem. I suspect your CD player is marginal. It might not be made to read burned CDs. A well burned one may work even though it should not.

Image burn is a superior burning app to Nero. I use Media Monkey to burn music. Both apps are shareware. Both apps alllow you to set slow burning speeds.

 

You mean it may only play originals ? it only plays CD-DA not mp3
Actually it is the original stereo that came with the car (a pontiac grand prix)
I believed Nero was good,
I'm gonna try ImgBurn ,at 4x slow speed like my ps2 games
thanks for the advice

 

You would expect a very marginal CD player in a Pontiac. I don't reall blame pontiac. The player was probably built to burn pressed CDs. If you look to buy a CD player it will state if it can play CDRs. They all do these days if you are buying a standalone player. However, if it is in a car...

I would rate Nero as near the bottom of the barrle however there are must worse paid for apps out there. At least Nero has a chance of getting it right. For some reason Nero Roxio and Sonic never paid attention to the fact the 16x need to be burned at 8x or slower if yiou don't make coasters. There was a time were a 4x burned at 4x would produce a good product 99% of the time. Now even with Sonys (slightly marginal) you can't get 1 out od 10 to be good if you burn at the rated speed.

Like Nero, Image Burn (Imgburn) is a generic burner. Is just does a better job. Try 2x. CDs at even 1x only take a few minutes.

 

Almost every CD-R in the market uses phthalocyanine dye. The exceptions are Taiyo Yuden with their cyanine dye and, in some cases, Verbatim with azo-cyanine. The phthalocyanine dyes have a short write strategy, which means that they react very quickly to heat and require only short bursts of laser power to form a good burn mark with high contrast on the edges to simulate a pit on a CD disc with its sharp wall edges. The advantages of phthalocyanine dye are that it tends to be far more stable in both heat and UV light than other dyes and its faster reaction time means faster recording speeds than those allowed by the other formulations. (The converse is also true: slow recording speeds, generally anything below 8X, may force a drive to "overburn" a phthalocyanine-based disc and produce a disc with high jitter and poor recording quality. Most discs, therefore, cannot be recorded in the old stereo disc recorders that used real-time 1X speeds.)

If your discs have a very faint greenish yellow cast to them, they use phthalocyanine dye. Recording speeds between 16X and 32X will generally produce the best quality. Slower speeds will likely produce excessive jitter, and higher speeds may be fine but put undue wear on your drive with little benefit.

CD-Rs have lower reflectivity than CDs. That is often a problem for audio players, especially early models. It is not unusual for a CD-R, even a well recorded one, to fail to play in an older car player. You can try different brands of CD-Rs to find which one works best in your player. Although dyes are generally the same, the formulations are different; but the biggest difference is in the signal-to-noise ration of the lead-in tracks molded into a disc substrate. Those with a high S/N will allow the player to find the groove easily; and once a player finds the groove, tracking circuitry takes care of the rest.

 

Thanks Joe, you know your burning dyes better than I. Where were you when I was having DVD burn problems? You have shed some light on a problem I have with a large batch of Sony DVDs. I will try burning faster. I have stopped buying green dye DVD disks without knowing what I was doing. It NEVER occured to me to speed up the burn process. Now I will try burning at a higher rate. That is what happens when you don't crack a book, you get behind the times.

 

Mez,

I don't think there are any green DVD recordable discs. All the dyes--cyanine, azo-cyanine, and Oxonol--are deep purple because of the need to match the wavelength of the ruby-red DVD recording laser. It is the CD-R dyes that look different from each other.

 

Well you can see how observant I am. They were Sony so I figured they must have been the greenish yellow tint you mentioned but I did not take time to picture them in my minds eye. I am using a dark purple dye now as I try to picture them (verbatum).

 

Sounds like this happens! Very similiar to gakousai dono's problem. I record a CD and it plays fine on the computer DVD, but it won't play on the stereo CD player (you can see it reading the info but no sound) and in the Sony car stereo nothing either. This is frustrating! A few years ago when MusicMatch was popular I recorded a lot of audio to play in the car or the stereo. I've tried wav files, MP3, realplayer. Real has a setting for other CD players, still doesn't work. Although that is why we burn music, usually. It is to listen on "other" players, right! I don't see why this should be so difficult. I will try the Monkey software and see. Maybe the problem is innovation and too many standards. If anyone has any ideas, it would sure be appreciated.

 

taisho, please post your results.

Does your burned CD play in the computer? If not it might be a standards thing. I am surprized you are having problems with a Sony player. They are over priced for the quality but they do not put out junk.

 

Mez, I want to thank you because your suggestion about Media Monkey took the monkey off me. I was able to record the Hebrew audio selection and some old radio pop favorites. They played perfectly in the car cd/radio and in the home cd player. I had went through 15 or more cd's as I had mentioned with known software and the result was usually that they would only play in the computer. This is an HP Pavilion. The recording I did using Real software would show visually that the CD was being read and the track was "clicking" by, but there was no sound.
With Media Monkey, the steps to load your audio selection are not difficult. I was going to slow the recording speed as was suggested. Turned out, I didn't need to! Media Monkey recorded quickly and I ran out to the Garage and got into the car,disc in hand and their were tunes...very happy! This is the reason most people record CD's, is to play them in something that isn't the computer. Innovation can be a beautiful thing. So I guess it begs the question why don't the big named software companies get this. i.e. windows media, realplayer and the like. What we are talking about here reinvented Apple Computer Corp. Thank you for your suggestion.

 

Creaky
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I read all the groak's about stupid thread titles. Computers being what they are, one has to name stuff. Alls good,except this wasnt my thread, I was replying to the newbie post. Nexttime I will just start a new thread. But I believe the AD handbook states "thou shalt not clutter with new threads if their is one already opened on a subject."
If I am mistaken then when I go to post my question about Error 104,it doesn't just affect Chrome, but I.E. and Firefox as well. Your saying start a thread and make sure it has a box office title?