trouble with recode & shrink

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  1. Idahojoec

    Idahojoec Member

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    I have just bought a Hauppauge pvr-150 capture card. I captured vhs video using Mpeg 2 12Mbps (too much?). I captured about 90 minutes which took about 6.6GB of disk. I get a message about the project being too big and requires a DVD-9 disk. It asks if it should try to compress to fit on a DVD-5 disk. I say OK but get a message thats says it can't compress. I have an mpeg file but I want to end with a standard DVD rom. I used Nero which created video_ts files that were about 5.5GB. Then I tried Nero recode2 but got an error. I tried DVD Shrink but it could not open the files due to an error.
    1) Do I need to recapture the 90 minutes of vhs video?
    2) Is there a good guide someone could point to that talks about taking my VHS to DVD using a Hauppauge capture card and Nero 6.6? Or do I need other tools?
    3) I appreciate any help and links to guides to help educate me. I have had trouble finding what I am looking for (Needless to say I am a newbie and this is my first try at this).
    Thanks,
    Joe
     
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    You should Not Capture at 12mb sec because the DVD standard Has a Max Bitrate of 9800kbs for audio and Video Combined and any Bitrate Higher than this will cause the Captured File to Not be DVD Compliant....

    You should set your Bitrate Based on How Long your Movie is so that it Fits on a DVD perfectly as you will Get Better Quality Captureing at the Correct Bitrate than Captureing at the Highest Bitrate you can and then Re-encodeing it so it is Smaller ...

    Also you should Not use DVD-Shrink or Recode to Put these Mpeg-2 files on to DVD, You should be useing a Proper DVD authoring Program so you can Add Chapters and your Own Custom menu"s ect.....

    Try something like "Tmpgenc DVD author" or "MediaChance DVDLab Pro" both will Accept your Captured Mpeg-2 Files and let you add menu"s and Chapters and author them to DVD without re-encodeing the Files and Ruining the Quality.....

    To Figure out what Bitrate you should be Captureing at based on the Length of your Movie you should use a Bitrate Calculator....The one I use is Called "PowerBit" and all you Do is Put in the Length of your Movie and it will tell you what Bitrate to use so the Movie Fits on a DVD without Going over and then you Capture the Movie useing that Bitrate and when you are Done you should have a Mpeg-2 file that is just under 4.38gb that you Can Load into a DVD authoring Program and add your Menu"s and Chapters and Burn to DVD...

    Captureing at the Highest Bitrate you can and then re-encodeing the Files totally defeats the Whole Purpose of haveing a Hardware Mpeg-2 encoder Card....the whole Advantage to useing Hardware Mpeg-2 compression is so you Don"t have to re-encode the Files because they are allready in Mpeg-2/DVD format......

    Cheers

    PS: You should also maybe Try the capture software that came with your card....
     
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    Minion, Thanks for the advice. I'll try that. My card only came with drivers (no s/w) but I downloaded the software from the Hauppauge website. Just as an update I recaptured the video using Hauppauge's software and their "standard dvd" settings which is 8Mbps I think and it came out pretty good. I then use Nero to author the DVD. I greatly appreciate your help and suggestions.
    Joe
     
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    Well even 8mb sec is even a Bit High, It is Fine if you don"t mind only Fitting 60 minutes on a DVD but you should be able to Fit Twice that on a DVD....Generally between 4 to 6mb sec is usually High encough to Produce good enough Quality depending on the quality of the encoder.....

    Cheers
     

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