hi guys i just post in another plpace and they get mad on me , but its ok ,if a make a new thread they say why u dont check the forum if a put in sombody else they say dont hack somebody threat so i dont get it ! but i forgat about it ! its allright! lol. i want to buy some system for movies and music so just look thisand gimme some feedback ! thanks , its im trying to spend about a $1000 so if u know another brand and u think is good let me know thanks again!!! there i go: JBL E150P 10" 150-Watts Front-Firing Powered Subwoofer - Black $ 169 JBL E50 E Series 8" 3-Way 175-Watts Horizontal Mirror-Image Bookshelf $230 pair JBL EC25 E Series Dual 5" 2-way 150 Watts Center Speaker - Black $ 90 JBL E80 E Series 6" 3-Way, Dual 200-Watt Floor Standing Speaker $305 pair Harman Kardon AVR-240 50 Watts per Channel x7, Built-in Dolby Digital & DTS, AM/FM $ 340 grand total /shiping $1,167.65 all this is from www.b&hphotovideo.com again thanks for comments! seeya guys! chiao!
You seem to have put together a good system there; have you heard all the units you're speaking of and read independent reviews? Personally, I think your rears are too directional; I thought the sound was much better when I switched to speakers which radiated more (the sound seem to soar and travel around more if you know what I mean)and I'm sure JBL makes some which are well timber matched to your fronts. Did you choose your Harmon Kardon for any particular reason? I'm asking because I had cause to check out JBLs AVRs a couple of months ago and I was surprised at what I saw ... they have some that were very impressive. With your budget, I can't help but wonder if the better JBLs might not give you more for your dollars than Harman Kardon ... not saying they would but I'm curious; I'm a Denon freak myself but I was quite impressed with what I saw. Edit: sorry boss, I was thinking of JVC ... don't know I confused with JBL; pehaps because they make stage gear as well. All the same, do a little more homework on the rears...I found fuller and less directional sound better in the rear.
hi ,like hear nope i just read reviews and about 90 % of the people says is is good ! yes about the rear u right, i was looking for sourround rear! i try to find anothers but all out of stock ! what u recommend , some place or some name! the avr harman i just choice becouse i see the 340 and i likeit the look and the thing u can do with it( i forgot how say the right word for what i mean) and all the reviews says 5 of 5 recommend that!and for the watts says 50 but is more than that becouse got amp internal u know right . so i dont know now! im gone to check the jvc and i see whats on !denom its good but to expensive to me !i just want some for watch movies and listen some music nice clear and crisp !! lol and powerrrrr!!!lol. i made some changes in the sub adn the floor speaker check this out: Mirage Omni S8-Platinum 8-Inch Powered Subwoofer JBL E90 E Series 8", Dual 225-Watt Floor Standing Speaker now i just need the rear sourround speackers! let me know what u think ! thanks i got u later !
Hi Dsouth! I want to post some links for .... your speakers MUST be compatible with each other. You CAN'T put three JBLs in the front and something else in the back. They have to be "timber matched". Have you bought the JBL fronts yet? The Mirage sub you choose is awesome (mine is a Klipsch but I prefer Mirage) Have you considered something like the Mirage nanostats (link below). They're perfect with the sub you choose and better matched to the power of your Harmon Kardon and don't let the size fool you. With that sub, I can guarantee they'll sound better than your JBLs and fall in the same price range: http://www.miragespeakers.com/v2/product_page.php?open=lines&subid=640&id=580 Also, you can find many places that are selling the Mirage "Omnistat" at a great savings because they're being cleared out for the new model... the "omnistat v.2". The "Omnistat" being replaced is one of the best damned speakers I've ever heard and right now, you can find them on sale in a lot of places for about $100.00 each. Those too, like the nanostats, are a better match for your amps power and would drive better than those 250w JBLs. Take a look at them and if you know a place that sells Mirage speakers, go listen to them...you'll be astonished.
sorry about it i may be bother u sorry! u know but im trying to do the right buying !for me is a big money to expend so thats why i keep looking .i didnt buy anything yet. i just check the mirage look good and the reviews to ! like u says i check to infinity and i got this : lol sorrys Infinity PRIMUS 160 BKS Two-Way, Main/Stereo Bookcase Speaker Infinity PRIMUS C25 Two-Way Center Channel Speaker Infinity PRIMUS 360 BK Three-Way, Floorstanding Speaker and the mirage subs!the price range $ 890 . the rear bookcase i can't see if is surround or not ? i keep looking around all this is from vanns. anything u say tell me i dont mind , if good or not tell me and thanks again for u patience !
Hi Dsouth: I don't mind at all; I like to help when I can. Excellent choices my friend! Infinity Primus is an EXCELLENT speaker...and unlike the 250w JBLs, there is no question that you'll easily and more efficiently drive the Infinity Primus. They are also very well matched. The Primus 160s would go in the rear... yes, they are a bit too directional for my taste but they will be fine, you just need to make sure they are properly placed. The 360s and C25 obviously go in the front. The mirage sub is excellent too and will really rattle your floor and walls LOL! You are right about the power and crispness of the Harman Kardon and the Primus will do it justice. Your AVR is 65w per channel in stereo and 50w per channel in 7.1. WHen you set up the Harman Kardon, just set the options to "none" when you do the speaker set up ... your amplifier comes with a microphone for automatic set-up so it will probably do all that for you. To many, 50w per channel doesn't sound like much but most companies really exaggerate to the point where they're lying ... Harman Kardon's 50w per channel is exactly that and it will pack a lot of punch. Anyway, you made some excellent choices for the money. Tell me, how big is the room?
hi gerry1 ! 16 x 18 foot . ok so is good o like that , now u say to directional right ,so what can i choice to rear sorround ? i was reading some peolpe have 2 bose in the rear and difenrents in the front ! thats work? i got to go to work ! i keep in the night when i come back about 11 30 pm thanks !! have fun !!!
No, DSouth. The Primus 160s are fine! You did a good job! Excellent speaker choices! I prefer three speakered rears aiming front, right and left but that's just me. The primus 160s are a damned good choice. DSouth, you NEVER want to mix speaker brands between front and rear. I know see it a lot in the posts or see people doing it, but its never a good idea. At the moment, you'll be operating your system as a 5.1 but should you decide you want to buy two more speakers later, be sure you stick with the infinities. The "timber matching" of speakers is more important than I can stress. When you watch / listen to your DVDs, you'll notice that there is a lot of interplay between the rear and front speakers. You'll notice that the sound effects can just swirl around the room but if two of the speakers sound different, it can totally ruin the effects. Let me tell you of two that I'm sure of: Mirage and Polk both make excellent speakers but Mirage tends to be color neutral and Polks can be very bright but both are excellent. You put top of the line Mirage in the front and top of the line Polk in the rear and it will sound terrible even if you're using four of the best speakers made. You never want to mix makes of speakers. The only exception to this rule is the subwoofer...so mixing Mirage and Infinity doesn't matter if its the sub but you would never want to put Mirage as your fronts and Infinity as your rears. THey need to be the same for your system to sound its best. I'll explain a little later why I asked about the size of your room; I have someone waiting for me. You did a good job with the speakers and I'm sure you'll enjoy them.
hi gerry ! thanks ! im ready to buy all that , now i need help with the wires monster cables and everithing! and a coupple more months after get this system i may buy another 2 more 160 , lateron ,tooo later lol !!!farrrr awayyy !!! ok im gone to get speacker from vanns is a autorized dealer yeahh i read that to for the warrantys u know !!! i loook everything u have to be carefull !! and the harman kardon for J&R.com is another dealer authorized . from now just wait and see ! when u got some time let me know ,thanks very very appreciate u help u was the only one u say some to me, so now im leaaivng to sleep im tired, they work the hell outme !!! bye later !!!!!!!!
Hi Dsouth! It was wise of you to make sure that your web merchants are dealer authorized; most are not because they're considered distributers not retailers. I keep meaning to mention that to people but I usually forget. I've always had good experiences with J&R but I never bought anything from Vanna. Dsouth, don't waste your money buying monster cables; I'm not saying that they're not good but they're a huge wase of money. If you have a radio shack around somewhere, they sell their own brand of good, solid, high quality cables which are fine. You don't want cheap junk either, don't get me wrong, but monster is just a big waste of money and you can get really good high quality cables for less than half of what monster charges. When you get speaker wire, make sure its 16 or 14 guage; you don't want anything thinner than 16g but wire bigger than 14g is unnecessary, harder to work with and costs more than necessary. You can get everything you need at a radio shack if there is one near you; tell them you want good wire and cables (because they also sell the cheap stuff). You'll see radio shack's own brand because they're usually in a special display case. They're black, gold plated, very very solid and very good. There are a lot of very nice guys and very knowledgable guys here at afterdawn; someone would have answered you soon. YOu can learn a lot here...I know I have. We also have a good time in the "safety valve" forum where people discuss things, or talk and joke. Lots of nice people here. I do want to write about setting for speaker size when you listen to music or watch DVDs but I'll have to do that later. I hope you are well and stop working so hard LOL! ...Gerry
gerry hi !! unvelible !! its out of stockkk they just tell me today i say men its take to long to shipp !! so just cancel my order with j&r and i see the same item the harman in amazon ! its a good place to buy ? im looking for revieuws !! but if u know something let me know, the price is about 5 $ more is not bad , and i look in the HK web site if they are authorized retailer and say yes they are but like i say let me know something if u know about that site! i keep doint mi home work lol . thanks .. i got the speakers wow wow wow im waiting in the reciever now lol .ok thanks again if u can let me know or somebody !!! bye !!!!! thanks
Amazon will deal with many different retailers but if the retailer is authorized, you certainly can't go wrong.
hi !!! o yes i got my system i toke me all day to hook just the tv and dvd player , lol , and aint finish yet i got to plug the ps2 and cd player !! but its sound good i like it , now about the sub whats with " filter on off" , frequency, phase 0 100, what all that ? i waws reading the manual but i dont get it? im gone to look in here for some thread! thanks
I wish I had seen this sooner. Like Gerry I was impressed with the Mirage. The Omni-poles have an amazing image depth and soundstage. They are somewhat similar to di-poles used in extreme high end pure stereo audio systems (due to their typically low power requirements and extreme efficiency they, dipoles I mean, tend to be tube driven), but omni-poles are designed to suit in all positions unlike a di-pole that is only designed to be situated at the front corners directly facing the user position. Anyways, nice choice on speakers, I hope and I am quite sure they will bring you years of pleasure.
hi guys ! yes sandt38 i hope get some years lol!! because i spend some money$$$$ and for me its alottt but u know i like everithing around music , movies, djs, all!! so i say im gone to spend some big money in something good .and thanks to gerry i got this system he gimme some good feedbacks. so guys i got to sleep im tired i keep tomorrow some else bye guys and thanks.........
@Dsouth...I only just noticed that you'd posted again. How is the system working out Dsouth?? @sandt38...I have mirages all the way around except for my sub. My sub is a Klip which is, frankly, a bit underpowered compared to the rest of the system. I'll change it sooner or later but there isn't any big hurry at the moment. I live in an apartment building now and I'm pretty lucky because my apartment is rather isolated from the others so I can let it rip but still only within reason. Dsouth ... keep us posted buddy!
hi gerry and guys , i kind of complicated all the instalation , it got a lot of things to do with the receiver , dvd , tv,and ps2 for now , that all i got , i get piss of trying to hook the ps2 and tv , becouse the avr as 1 plug to tv right to see the your setting in the tv , ok. and the ps2 need to be connected on the tv and the dvd too.so my tv got its not old its rca 27 inches got 1 conector in the back and 1 in the side i got the ps2 and the dvd video on the tv and the oudio on the avr. ok , when i need to see some setting from the avr in the tv i need to unplug the dvd and conect the avr to tv with and s video cable.if both are conected the screen i kind of go to the sides and get black and white. its a mess im still reading the manual and another thing the avr dont show al the speaker when im watching a dvd only show 2 left and right thats all. now im looking for a cd player or cd mp3 player like the sony what hold about 400 cd, and read mp3. ok guys im keep trying to fix my problems and thanks. after all that is working nice i like it thanks gerry for ur help , the police came saturday night on my door becouse say somebody call them about noise and rattling the walls , lol , hahahah!!! the sub is amazing , guys im kind of hungry i got to go , seeya laterr ...
@Dsouth...I'm glad you like your new set up ... its always fun get a new toy! LOL! Watch the police though...they (along with your neighbors) don't much care frequent calls ! You shouldn't have to plug and unplug things, something is wrong there...have you figured that one out? Worse comes to worse, you can get a selector switch and switch between the units but that shouldn't be necessary. You're welcome for the help; we all love to chip in but if you haven't figured out this new kink, let us know!...Gerry
