tEChniiQue, you seem to be very , very knowledgable about this port forwarding. i'm grateful for all the help using bitlord, i just use the listening port number that is assigned when forwarding that port number to my router right ? i did get one torrent going at over 250kbs once so that to me was amazing ! but most of the time about 50-60 so i'm just wondering if i did that right ? mike.