Ubuntu gets the "Bloatware" treatment

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  1. janrocks

    janrocks Guest

    Now here is a great example of what we don't like about windoze.. unnecessary bloat, and duplication of applications.


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  2. Skitzy

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    Ubuntu seems to be the only distro that is 100% compatible with this particular pc that I'm using now (I have managed to get Suse and a few others up and running on several other pc's within the home) but I'm just not having any luck with any other distro excempt mandriva one and I felt that mandriva one was a bit strip mined compared to some of the others out there. I gave video linux a try and I have sound card issues very similar to what alot of these vista creeps are complaining about. I tried Debian last night (which I really wanted to work) but I had absolutely no luck with it either. To start things off.. my keyboard was incompatible so I had to go grab another keyboard out of the closet and then things were going great.. until the installation was complete. I couldn't get a GUI. I tried everything that I know (which isn't much) and as far as Suse on this pc goes,I have always had a problem with eth0 already running in (kinda like being firewalled) just can't seem to reach the outside world... but to make a long story short.. I guess I'm stuck w/ the bloat.. although I don't believe I have that particular frankenbuild that your displaying here. I still think ubuntu is great for n00bs just due to it's simplicity. I know that 99% of the AD ppl absolutely despise it.. and it was for that reason that I wanted to try another distro... anyways.. I feel like I'm taking your thread elsewhere so I will S.T.F.U. now.. and move on.. just wanted to vent my frustrations about trying other distro's.. just seems that I'm stuck with ubuntu is all..
     
  3. janrocks

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    hey dude.. Whatever works for you.

    Know what you mean about debian at the moment.. It's really a mess, especially as the public key is missing from the multimedia repositories, all the mirrors away from the US ones are in a state, duplicated lists and whatever.
    I have managed through this mess to get updated to etch, but it's unstable as hell... slackware is calling... hmmmmmmm slack.....
     
  4. wolfmanz

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    @janrocks

    From what I have seen you are not much of a Ubuntu lover, but a very dedicated and experienced Linux user. Ubuntu may not be the best for an experienced Linux user but I think it is great for someone that wants to learn. It is still free and and IMO better than Windows, the Linux community needs to come together not fight about which is best.
     
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  6. The_Fiend

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    In it's current form, the Ubuntu team finds and patches more problems each month than f***ing microsucks does.
    To show you what i mean, here's all "known" flaws in Ubuntu : CLICK HERE.
    Those are just the flaws they've patched, if it wasn't a cardinal sin to link you to some 0day exploit sites, i could show you about 500 more that have not been found and/or patched at this time.

    As for your bullsh*t about the linux community coming together, you obviously haven't been in this scene very long, nor do you understand it, as it has been the competitive drive between distro's that's kept this community on it's toes, and working overtime to ensure no hole goes unpatched.
    Sure, there will be 0day exploits that no one finds till it's too late, but hell, look for windows based 0day exploits, and lo and behold, 1200 related exploits...
     
  7. janrocks

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    Mwahahahah.. I love your 0day exploit reports..

    I think my blog explains better than anything some of the fundamental divides and discussions ongoing in the linux/free-os community.

    No one thing is better than another, it all depends on your competency level, your hardware, and ultimately... what you want to do with your computer.

    Anyway, this discussion was about "bloatware" in linux, not really a bashing session..

    If I wantede to have a bash I'd get onto DHT being disabled at kernel level in suse.
     
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  8. The_Fiend

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    But, isn't that a good thing ? ;-)
     
  9. janrocks

    janrocks Guest

    That depends what you want to do.. :lol:
     
  10. wolfmanz

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    Attitudes like yours are the problem in the Linux community not the competition between distro's. Instead of insulting or bashing everyone with a different opinion than yours, try helping them in the right direction.

    I may not be a Linux expert by your standards. Over the last year I have learned a lot, some by trial and error and some thanks to the very helpful people on the Linux forums.
     
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